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From: Quan Xu <quan.xu0@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
Cc: quan.xu0@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, wanpeng.li@hotmail.com, mst@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, rkrcmar@redhat.com,
	dmatlack@google.com, agraf@suse.de, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] sched/idle: update poll time when wakeup from idle
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 18:29:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db8e812b-8f86-b996-1477-d8baaf7f562a@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170829124655.ann5cipoubl5lppn@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>



On 2017/8/29 20:46, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:46:41AM +0000, Yang Zhang wrote:
>> In ttwu_do_wakeup, it will update avg_idle when wakeup from idle. Here
>> we just reuse this logic to update the poll time. It may be a little
>> late to update the poll in ttwu_do_wakeup, but the test result shows no
>> obvious performance gap compare with updating poll in irq handler.
>>
>> one problem is that idle_stamp only used when using CFS scheduler. But
>> it is ok since it is the default policy for scheduler and only consider
>> it should enough.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Quan Xu <quan.xu0@gmail.com>
> Same broken SoB chain, and not a useful word on why you need to adjust
> this crap to begin with. What you want that poll duration to be related
> to is the cost of a VMEXIT/VMENTER cycle, not however long we happened
> to be idle.
>
> So no.

Peter,

I think you are right..

IIUC, the time we happened to be idle may contain a chain of 
VMEXIT/VMENTER cycles,
which would be mainly (except the last VMEXIT/VMENTER cycles) for just 
idle loops. right?

as you mentioned, poll duration to be related to is the cost of __a__ 
VMEXIT/VMENTER cycle.
howerver it is very difficult to measure a VMEXIT/VMENTER cycle 
accurately from
kvm guest, we could find out an approximate one -- dropping the idle 
loops from the
time we happened to be idle.. make sense?

Quan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-29 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-29 11:46 [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] x86/idle: add halt poll support Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] x86/paravirt: Add pv_idle_ops to paravirt ops Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46   ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 13:55   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-29 13:55     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-30  7:33     ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-30  7:33     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-01  6:50     ` Yang Zhang
2017-09-01  6:50     ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] KVM guest: register kvm_idle_poll for pv_idle_ops Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] sched/idle: Add poll before enter real idle path Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 12:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-01  5:57     ` Quan Xu
2017-09-14  8:41       ` Quan Xu
2017-09-14  9:18         ` Borislav Petkov
2017-08-29 14:39   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-01  6:49     ` Quan Xu
2017-09-29 10:39       ` Quan Xu
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] x86/paravirt: Add update in x86/paravirt pv_idle_ops Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] Documentation: Add three sysctls for smart idle poll Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46   ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 17:20   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-29 17:20   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-29 17:20     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] KVM guest: introduce smart idle poll algorithm Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] sched/idle: update poll time when wakeup from idle Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-01  7:30     ` Yang Zhang
2017-09-29 10:29     ` Quan Xu [this message]
2017-08-29 11:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] x86/idle: add halt poll support Alexander Graf
2017-09-01  6:21   ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 13:03 ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-29 14:02 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-08-29 14:27   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-29 14:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-01  6:32   ` Yang Zhang
2017-09-01  6:52     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-09-01  6:44   ` Yang Zhang
2017-09-01  6:58     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-09-01  7:53       ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 14:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-13 11:56   ` Yang Zhang
2017-09-14  8:36     ` Quan Xu
2017-09-14  9:19       ` Wanpeng Li
2017-09-14  9:40         ` Quan Xu

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