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From: Arnout Vandecappelle <arnout@mind.be>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [RFC] [PATCH v2 2/2] support/kconfig: Bump to kconfig from Linux 4.17-rc2
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 23:22:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dcf8150e-1eb1-ba10-09e6-d3eb0bffaf2b@mind.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180520165009.56b44d9b@windsurf>



On 20-05-18 16:50, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Sun, 20 May 2018 16:41:41 +0200, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> 
>> I initially did not reply further to this part, becuase I seem to
>> remember that there was a change in behavious with certain versions of
>> flex/bison, that made the output change drastically, and I was afraid we
>> could be bitten by this...
>>
>> But in the end, this is not a problem, because we would not care to
>> mix-n-match files built with different versions of said tools, as they
>> would be those from the distro, always, and never those we ship, since
>> we would no longer ship them.
>>
>> And eventually, I now remember that the issue was with gperf changing
>> its API (a function prototype changed), and that was causing pain. But
>> now, kconfig no longer uses gperf to start with, so no incompatibility
>> anymore anyway.
>>
>> Which would allow us to drop the dependency of linux on host-{flex,bison}
>> that we had to add recently.
> 
> If we start relying on the system-installed flex and bison, then we
> should remove host-flex and host-bison entirely, not only for the linux
> package. The question is whether bison and flex both behave in a
> reasonably similar way regardless of which version is used.

 I briefly looked at this in Paris, and it became clear very quickly that even a
minor change in the bison version would give a completely different .c file. If
this is a source file that will be built for the target, it's going to be a
major reproducibility-killer. So I don't think we can remove host-bison and
host-flex.

 Regards,
 Arnout

> 
> When I see that even "tar" does not have a sufficiently stable
> behavior (which forces us to build host-tar), I'm a bit worried about
> more complex tools such as flex and bison.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Thomas
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-22 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-09 16:44 [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 1/2] support/kconfig: Add missing target to README.buildroot Petr Vorel
2018-05-09 16:44 ` [Buildroot] [RFC] [PATCH v2 2/2] support/kconfig: Bump to kconfig from Linux 4.17-rc2 Petr Vorel
2018-05-19 21:03   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2018-05-20  5:05     ` Petr Vorel
2018-05-20 14:23     ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-05-20 14:31       ` Petr Vorel
2018-05-20 14:41         ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-05-20 14:50           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2018-05-22 21:22             ` Arnout Vandecappelle [this message]
2018-05-28 20:37               ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-05-29 10:44                 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2018-05-29 17:04                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-07-30 13:04                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2018-07-31  7:55                     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2018-07-31  8:06                       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2018-07-31  8:20                         ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2018-08-01 19:42                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-08-01 20:20                             ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-08-02 11:02                             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2018-08-02 17:10                               ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-08-03 16:24                                 ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-05-09 16:46 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v2 1/2] support/kconfig: Add missing target to README.buildroot Petr Vorel
2018-05-13 20:09 ` Thomas Petazzoni

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