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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Paul Durrant <paul.durrant@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] MMIO emulation fixes
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 18:11:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd3c99c2-67e3-faf1-4219-85651b891adc@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5B755FBC0200007?= =?UTF-8?Q?8001DEDBF@suse.com>

On 16/08/18 13:27, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 16.08.18 at 12:56, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 16/08/18 11:29, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> Following some further discussion with Andrew, he looks to be
>>> convinced that the issue is to be fixed in the balloon driver,
>>> which so far (intentionally afaict) does not remove the direct
>>> map entries for ballooned out pages in the HVM case. I'm not
>>> convinced of this, but I'd nevertheless like to inquire whether
>>> such a change (resulting in shattered super page mappings)
>>> would be acceptable in the first place.
>>
>> We don't tolerate anything else in the directmap pointing to
>> invalid/unimplemented frames.  Why should ballooning be any different?
> 
> Because ballooning is something virtualization specific, which
> doesn't have any equivalent on bare hardware (memory hot
> unplug doesn't come quite close enough imo, not the least
> because that doesn't work on a page granular basis). Hence
> we're to define the exact behavior here, and hence such a
> definition could as well include special behavior of accesses
> to the involved guest-physical addresses.

After discussing the issue with some KVM guys I still think it would be
better to leave the ballooned pages mapped in the direct map. KVM does
it the same way. They return "something" in case the guest tries to
read from such a page (might be the real data, 0's or all 1's).

So we should either map an all 0's or 1's page via EPT, or we should
return 0's or 1's via emulation of the read instruction.

Performance shouldn't be a major issue, as such reads should be really
rare.


Juergen

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-04 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]                   ` <5B755FBC0200007?= =?UTF-8?Q?8001DEDBF@suse.com>
2018-08-16 12:52                     ` [PATCH 0/2] MMIO emulation fixes Juergen Gross
2018-09-04 16:11                     ` Juergen Gross [this message]
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2018-09-04 16:24                 ` Andrew Cooper
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     [not found]                         ` <A283E656020000808E2C01CD@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2018-09-05  7:10                           ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-10 10:37 Paul Durrant
2018-08-10 10:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/hvm/ioreq: MMIO range checking completely ignores direction flag Paul Durrant
2018-08-10 11:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-10 10:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/hvm/emulate: make sure rep I/O emulation does not cross GFN boundaries Paul Durrant
2018-08-10 11:14   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-10 11:50     ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-10 11:50       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-10 11:59   ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-10 12:10     ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-10 12:01 ` [PATCH 0/2] MMIO emulation fixes Jan Beulich
2018-08-10 12:08   ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-10 12:13     ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-10 12:22       ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-10 12:37         ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-10 12:43           ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-10 12:55             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-10 15:08               ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-10 15:30                 ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-10 15:35                   ` Paul Durrant
     [not found]                     ` <5B6DB69D02000078001DD06A@prv1*mh.provo.novell.com>
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     [not found]                         ` <92ca69e5*98b1*61e4*817a*3868f829471a@citrix.com>
2018-08-10 16:00                     ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-10 16:30                       ` George Dunlap
2018-08-10 16:37                         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-13  6:50                           ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-16 11:08                             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-29 10:36                             ` Olaf Hering
2018-08-29 10:53                               ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-29 11:00                                 ` Olaf Hering
2018-08-29 11:09                                   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-29 11:14                                     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-29 11:26                                     ` Juergen Gross
     [not found]                                     ` <5B86773A0200004903F324A0@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]                                       ` <5B867B1A0200006D03F3278E@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]                                         ` <5B867D000200009103F328E2@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]                                           ` <5B867F020200009E04E46402@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2018-08-29 12:06                                             ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                                       ` <5B87A68A0200001C04E5493A@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2018-08-30  8:23                                         ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-30 10:42                                           ` Olaf Hering
2018-08-30  8:10                               ` Olaf Hering
2018-08-16 10:29                           ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-16 10:56                             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-16 11:27                               ` Jan Beulich
     [not found] <20180810103714.5112=3def=3dbf=3dbd1=3def=3dbf=3dbdpau?= l.durrant@ci?= trix.com>

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