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From: Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	pmorel@linux.ibm.com, Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: freude@de.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	cohuck@redhat.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com,
	bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	fiuczy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, buendgen@de.ibm.com,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/13] KVM: s390: implement mediated device open callback
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:49:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd81f313-a8c2-bf2a-da4c-4669db170401@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5a72aad-303b-8bc9-f48b-e44aba2af27e@linux.ibm.com>


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On 11.06.2018 13:32, Halil Pasic wrote:
> 
> 
> On 06/11/2018 11:23 AM, Pierre Morel wrote:
>> On 08/06/2018 23:59, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>>> On 06/07/2018 01:15 PM, Pierre Morel wrote:
>>>>
>>
>> ...snip...
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why maintain a list of kvm_ap_matrix structures if we don't have to; it is stored
>>>>>>> with the mediated matrix device which is passed in to all of the vfio_ap driver
>>>>>>> callbacks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because using the vm_list which is a static in kvm makes you stick inside the kvm code.
>>>
>>> I understand your point here, but even if we did maintain a list of kvm_ap_matrix structures,
>>> we still need the kvm code to configure the guest's CRYCB and eventually ECA.28. There is
>>> also code in kvm-ap.c that is called from KVM.
>>
>> The only code from kvm-ap which is called from KVM is temporary code
>> waiting for Harald to offer the clean interface to AP instructions.
>>
>>> The idea behind kvm-ap.c is that all code
>>> related to configuration of AP structures in KVM is in this one spot.
>>
>> This I understand, but the code can be in one spot inside VFIO_AP instead
>> of inside KVM.
>> Putting the code inside KVM induce dependencies between KVM and AP
>> while the kvm/vfio interface allows to avoid this dependency.
>>
>> The purpose of VFIO_AP is to handle the CRYCB, all get/clear/set crycb masks
>> functions should be in VFIO AP.
>>
>> If we use wrappers in KVM, since the CRYCB is an a SIE extension,
>> it is legitimate, the KVM interface to the CRYCB should only
>> handle bitmaps and be unaware of the vfio_ap internal structures.

Yes, please!

>>
>> Another concern, the kvm_ap_validate_queue_sharing() should not be
>> inside KVM because it is a decision of current VFIO_AP driver
>> to not share the queues between guest of level 2.
>>
>> The Z architecture does not allow to share AP queues between
>> guests of level 1 but we could re-engineer the AP bus and the '
>> VFIO AP to offer queue sharing for guest level 2.
>>
>> This would be a new VFIO_AP driver (and an AP bus extension).
>> We should not have to change KVM for this.
>>
> 
> 
> Pierre's proposal makes a lot of sense to me. We would not need to take
> the kvm_lock (which we need to traverse the vm_list safely) for the
> validation, and we could have immediate validation (which is in my opinion
> better).

Please do not use the kvm_lock if possible.

> 
> Also your refcount (which is not a refcout) could go away. You simply
> traverse your list and check for duplicates when hooking up the mdev
> with KVM.
> 
> And my opinion is if we don't have to add code to the kvm module we
> better not.
> 
> @Janosch: Does core KVM share my opinion?

At least I do.

KVM does not care about who has which crypto queue/card.
I'd like to have a driver that does internal bookkeeping and then
registers the crycb with KVM, so the VM can use it.

> 
> Regards,
> Halil
> 



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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-11 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-07 15:11 [PATCH v5 00/13] s390: vfio-ap: guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 01/13] KVM: s390: Interface to test whether APXA installed Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 10:21   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-16 10:45     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-17  9:11       ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-05-17  9:44         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 02/13] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16  8:51   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-16 11:14     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 12:17       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-16 12:21         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 03/13] KVM: s390: CPU model support for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 04/13] s390: vfio-ap: base implementation of VFIO AP device driver Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16  8:21   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-16 11:29     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 11:45     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-07  8:57   ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-13  7:41   ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-13  7:48     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-13 10:54       ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-13 11:14         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-13 12:01           ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-13 12:12             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-13 12:16               ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-14 13:04                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 05/13] s390: vfio-ap: register matrix device with VFIO mdev framework Tony Krowiak
2018-05-11 17:18   ` Halil Pasic
2018-05-14 19:42     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-15 14:17       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-15 15:16         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-15 15:48           ` Halil Pasic
2018-05-15 16:11             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-17  7:44       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-21 15:13         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-22  8:19           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-22 21:41             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 10:42   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-16 12:48     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 12:58     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 06/13] KVM: s390: interfaces to manage guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-05-11 16:08   ` Halil Pasic
2018-05-16 14:29     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 14:41       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-21 15:23         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-15 14:55   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-15 16:07     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16  7:48       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-16 13:12         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16 13:15           ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-16 13:48             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-18  8:55               ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-23 14:29                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-24  7:46                   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 07/13] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 08/13] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure domains Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 09/13] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 10/13] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interface to view matrix mdev matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16  7:55   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-23 14:38     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-24  9:10       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-30 14:28         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-05 12:40           ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-06 14:24             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-06 15:10               ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-07 12:53                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-07 13:16                   ` Halil Pasic
2018-06-07 14:33                     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 11/13] KVM: s390: implement mediated device open callback Tony Krowiak
2018-05-16  8:03   ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-23 14:45     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-24  9:08       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-30 14:33         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-05 12:19           ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-06 14:28             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-06 16:08               ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-06 17:40                 ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-07 13:54                   ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-07 15:20                     ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-07 16:30                       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-07 17:15                         ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-08 21:59                           ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-11  9:23                             ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-11 11:32                               ` Halil Pasic
2018-06-11 11:49                                 ` Janosch Frank [this message]
2018-06-11 16:26                                   ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-11 16:50                                     ` Halil Pasic
2018-06-11 16:54                                       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-11 12:50                                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-11 12:56                               ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-07 13:52                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 12/13] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_GET_INFO ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 13/13] s390: doc: detailed specifications for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak

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