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From: Ruien Zhang <>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Introduce printer subsystem and USB printer device
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 21:38:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

On 1/14/22 5:32 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>    Hi,
>> This patchset introduces:
>> 1) Skeleton of QEMU printer subsystem with a dummy builtin driver.
>> 2) USB printer device emulation, with definitions in the extension of IPP-over-
>>     USB [3].
>> WIP:
>> 1) QEMU printer subsystem interfaces, which will be finalized with a concrete
>>     backend driver.
>> 2) IPP-over-USB implementation.
> Hmm, I'm wondering what uses cases you have in mind and whenever
> it makes sense to introduce a printer subsystem?

Simply for the "potential" backend diversity. I have to admit that I 
haven't figured out another backend which would be commonly-seen either, 
which is also one part of the reason why the interfaces are not firming 
up right now.

> Having an ipp-over-usb device looks useful, but the only use case I can
> see is to allow guests access a network printer.  I can't see the
> benefits of a printer subsystem, especially in a world where non-ipp
> printers are going extinct.  We would most likely have just a single
> kind of printer backend, where the only job qemu will have is to
> forwarding requests and replies, maybe with some http header rewriting.
> Likewise usb would be the one and only device (parallel ports are long
> gone in printers).  So the indirection added by a printer subsystem
> doesn't buy us anything because we just don't need that flexibility.
> I'd suggest to pass the url directly to the device instead:
> qemu -device usb-ipp-printer,url=ipp://hostname/ipp/printer
> take care,
>    Gerd

Indeed, the subsystem is an over-abstraction. The forwarding way is much 
neater, considering how things really work nowadays.

Anyway, thanks for the practical suggestion, it will be revised, along 
with other designs around the path I'm currently working on.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-14 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-13 11:56 [PATCH 0/2] Introduce printer subsystem and USB printer device Ruien Zhang
2022-01-13 11:56 ` [PATCH 1/2] printer: Introduce printer subsystem Ruien Zhang
2022-01-13 11:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] usb-printer: Introduce USB printer class Ruien Zhang
2022-01-14  9:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce printer subsystem and USB printer device Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-14 13:38   ` Ruien Zhang [this message]
2022-01-15 15:31   ` Ruien Zhang
2022-01-17  7:17     ` Gerd Hoffmann

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