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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	"James E . J . Bottomley" <jejb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 000/117] Make better use of static type checking
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 19:11:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e230eb1f-172f-c18e-61dd-f9601e30d127@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c194446-e145-9d6d-3bc2-23254f0058b9@acm.org>

On 4/20/21 6:12 PM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 4/19/21 11:04 PM, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> We should not try to preserve the split SCSI result value with its four
>> distinct fields.
> 
> I don't think that we have the freedom to drop the four byte SCSI result
> entirely since multiple user space APIs use that data structure. The
> four-byte SCSI result value is embedded in the following user space API
> data structures (there may be others):
> * struct sg_io_v4, the SG_IO header includes the driver_status
> (driver_byte()), transport_status (host_byte()) and device_status
> (scsi_status & 0xff) (the message byte is not included).
> * struct fc_bsg_reply.
> * struct iscsi_bsg_reply.
> * struct ufs_bsg_reply.
> 
Yes, I know. But that's the user-space API; there is nothing forcing us 
to continue using it internally as long as we keep the userspace API intact.

>> I'd rather have the message byte handling moved into the SCSI parallel
>> drivers (where really it should've been in the first place).
>> The driver byte can go entirely as the DRIVER_SENSE flag can be replaced
>> with a check for valid sense code, DRIVER_TIMEOUT is pretty much
>> identical to DID_TIMEOUT (with the semantic difference _who_ set the
>> timeout), and DRIVER_ERROR can be folded back into the caller.
>> All other values are unused, allowing us to drop driver error completely.
>>
>> With that we're only having two fields (host byte and status byte) left,
>> which should be treated as two distinct values.
>>
>> As it so happens I do have a patchset for this; guess I'll be posting it
>> to demonstrate the idea.
> 
> This patch series does not prevent the conversion described above.
> Although I think that the changes described above would help, I have a
> few concerns:
> - Some drivers use the result member of struct scsi_cmnd for another
> purpose than storing SCSI result values. See e.g. the CAM_* values
> defined in drivers/scsi/aic7xxx/cam.h and the use of these values in
> drivers/scsi/aic7xxx/aic79xx_osm.c. From the master branch:
> 
>          [ ... ]
> 	cmd->scsi_done = scsi_done;
> 	cmd->result = CAM_REQ_INPROG << 16;
> 	rtn = ahd_linux_run_command(ahd, dev, cmd);
>          [ ... ]
> 
>          [ ... ]
> 	if ((cmd->result & (CAM_DEV_QFRZN << 16)) != 0) {
> 		cmd->result &= ~(CAM_DEV_QFRZN << 16);
> 		dev->qfrozen--;
> 	}
>          [ ... ]
> 
> Converting this driver could be challenging and may end up in rewriting
> this driver.

No, not really. I've got a patch for that; we should have separated the 
CAM values from the SAM status values a long time ago.

> - The SCSI drivers that do something meaningful with the message byte
> are parallel SCSI drivers. Parallel SCSI is a technology that was
> popular 20-30 years ago but that is no longer popular today. Finding
> test hardware may be a big challenge.

Indeed, the _drivers_ do.
But the SCSI midlayer does not; is just checks for a non-zero value here.
So we can easily map a non-zero message byte to DID_ERROR before calling 
->scsi_done(), allowing us to keep the message byte handling within the 
SCSI parallel drivers.

I got patches for that ...

> - The parallel SCSI technology is no longer commercially relevant. It
> may be challenging to motivate people (including yourself) to convert a
> significant number of parallel SCSI drivers that each have a small user
> base.
> 
... true, but then your patchset suffers from the same issue, no?

> Although I appreciate it that you have shared this proposal and also
> that you have proposed to lead this effort, I'm not convinced that this
> proposal will be implemented soon. So I propose to proceed with this
> patch series.
> 
I'm currently porting the patchset to 5.13/scsi-queue, and hope to have 
it published soon.

Don't get me wrong; I like your idea with introducing enums for stricter 
type-checking in the SCSI stack.
My point is simply that if we were converting the SCSI result (for 
whatever reason) we should drop those bits which are pointless (like 
DRIVER_SENSE), or never have been used at all (like DRIVER_HARD).

Cheers,

Hannes
-- 
Dr. Hannes Reinecke                Kernel Storage Architect
hare@suse.de                              +49 911 74053 688
SUSE Software Solutions GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-20 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-20  0:06 [PATCH 000/117] Make better use of static type checking Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 001/117] libsas: Introduce more SAM status code aliases in enum exec_status Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 002/117] Introduce enums for the SAM, message, host and driver status codes Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  9:23   ` Steffen Maier
2021-04-20 14:59     ` Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 003/117] Change the type of the second argument of scsi_host_complete_all_commands() Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 004/117] libiscsi: Use the host_status enum Bart Van Assche
2021-05-06 16:51   ` Lee Duncan
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 005/117] libsas: Use the host_status and sam_status enums Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 006/117] target: Use enum sam_status instead of u8 Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 007/117] lpfc: Reformat four comparisons Bart Van Assche
2021-04-21 20:22   ` James Smart
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 008/117] fc: Add a compile-time structure size check Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 009/117] iscsi: " Bart Van Assche
2021-05-06 16:52   ` Lee Duncan
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 010/117] ufs: " Bart Van Assche
2021-05-06 23:56   ` Can Guo
2021-04-20  0:06 ` [PATCH 011/117] Introduce the scsi_status union Bart Van Assche
2021-05-06 17:04   ` Lee Duncan
2021-05-07  0:04   ` Can Guo
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 012/117] block: Convert SCSI and bsg code to " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 013/117] core: Convert " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 014/117] ch: Pass union scsi_status to driver_byte() Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 015/117] sd: Convert to the scsi_status union Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 016/117] sr: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 017/117] st: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 018/117] sg: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 019/117] 3w*: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 020/117] 53c700: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 021/117] BusLogic: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 022/117] NCR5380: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 023/117] a100u2w: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 024/117] aacraid: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 025/117] acornscsi: Annotate fallthrough Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 026/117] acornscsi: Convert to the scsi_status union Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 027/117] advansys: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  1:49   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-20  2:27     ` Douglas Gilbert
2021-04-20  3:20       ` Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  3:17     ` Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  3:23       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-20 15:01         ` Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 028/117] aha*: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 029/117] aic*: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 030/117] arcmsr: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 031/117] ata: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 032/117] atp870u: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 033/117] be2iscsi: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 034/117] bfa: Use type int32_t to represent a signed integer Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 035/117] bfa: Convert to the scsi_status union Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 036/117] bnx2fc: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 037/117] cdrom: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 038/117] csiostor: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 039/117] cxlflash: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 040/117] dc395x: Use the set_{host,msg,status}_byte() functions Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 041/117] dc395x: Convert to the scsi_status union Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 042/117] dpt_i2o: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 043/117] esas2r: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 044/117] esp_scsi: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 045/117] fas216: Fix two source code comments Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 046/117] fas216: Convert to the scsi_status union Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 047/117] fc: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 048/117] fdomain: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 049/117] firewire: sbp2: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 050/117] fnic: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 051/117] hpsa: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 052/117] hptiop: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 053/117] ib_srp: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 054/117] ibmvfc: Fix the documentation of the return value of ibmvfc_host_chkready() Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 055/117] ibmvfc: Convert to the scsi_status union Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 056/117] ibmvscsi: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 057/117] ide: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 058/117] imm: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 059/117] initio: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 060/117] ipr: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 061/117] ips: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 062/117] iscsi: " Bart Van Assche
2021-05-06 18:54   ` Lee Duncan
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 063/117] libfc: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 064/117] sas: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 065/117] lpfc: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-21 20:26   ` James Smart
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 066/117] mac53c94: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 067/117] megaraid: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 068/117] mesh: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 069/117] message: fusion: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 070/117] mpt3sas: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:07 ` [PATCH 071/117] mvumi: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 072/117] myrb: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 073/117] myrs: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 074/117] ncr53c8xx: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 075/117] nfsd: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20 14:36   ` Chuck Lever III
2021-04-20 16:44     ` Bart Van Assche
2021-04-21 14:22       ` Chuck Lever III
2021-04-21 16:12         ` Bart Van Assche
2021-04-21 16:27           ` Chuck Lever III
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 076/117] nsp32: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 077/117] pcmcia: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 078/117] pktcdvd: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 079/117] pmcraid: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 080/117] ppa: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 081/117] ps3rom: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 082/117] qedf: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 083/117] qedi: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 084/117] qla1280: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 085/117] qla2xxx: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 086/117] qla4xxx: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 087/117] qlogicfas408: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 088/117] qlogicpti: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 089/117] s390/zfcp: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  0:08 ` [PATCH 090/117] scsi_debug: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 091/117] smartpqi: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 092/117] snic: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 093/117] staging: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  7:47   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-20 15:02     ` Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20 15:06       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 094/117] stex: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 095/117] storvsc: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20 19:39   ` Wei Liu
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 096/117] sym53c8xx_2: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 097/117] target: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 098/117] ufs: Remove an unused structure member Bart Van Assche
2021-05-06 23:57   ` Can Guo
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 099/117] ufs: Remove a local variable Bart Van Assche
2021-05-06 23:56   ` Can Guo
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 100/117] ufs: Use enum sam_status where appropriate Bart Van Assche
2021-05-07  0:01   ` Can Guo
2021-05-07  0:01   ` Can Guo
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 101/117] ufs: Remove an assignment from ufshcd_transfer_rsp_status() Bart Van Assche
2021-05-07  0:03   ` Can Guo
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 102/117] ufs: Convert to the scsi_status union Bart Van Assche
2021-05-07  0:09   ` Can Guo
2021-05-07  3:35     ` Bart Van Assche
2021-05-07  4:48       ` Can Guo
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 103/117] usb: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 104/117] virtio-scsi: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 105/117] vmw_pvscsi: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 106/117] wd33c93: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 107/117] wd719x: " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 108/117] xen-scsiback: Pass union status to the {status,msg,host,driver}_byte() macros Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 109/117] xen-scsifront: Convert to the scsi_status union Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 110/117] Finalize the switch from 'int' to 'union scsi_status' Bart Van Assche
2021-05-06 18:55   ` Lee Duncan
2021-05-07  0:24   ` Can Guo
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 111/117] Use the scsi_status union more widely Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 112/117] Change the return type of scsi_execute() into union scsi_status Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 113/117] Change the return type of scsi_execute_req() " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:13 ` [PATCH 114/117] Change the return type of scsi_test_unit_ready() " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:14 ` [PATCH 115/117] Change the return types of scsi_mode_sense() and sd_do_mode_sense() Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:14 ` [PATCH 116/117] Change the return type of scsi_mode_select() into union scsi_status Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  2:14 ` [PATCH 117/117] Change the return type of ioctl_internal_command() " Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20  6:04 ` [PATCH 000/117] Make better use of static type checking Hannes Reinecke
2021-04-20 16:12   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20 17:11     ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2021-04-20 21:10       ` Bart Van Assche
2021-04-20 17:19     ` Douglas Gilbert

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