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From: Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>
To: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>
Cc: "Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Roman Bolshakov" <r.bolshakov@yadro.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 00/38] arm cleanup experiment for kvm-only build
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 10:04:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3192d91-238d-1ce9-3a6b-5407a19466f1@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9q4vbyi85ZAYAfW-F-SCDNt=XScDkb78TN8MEO7VvbAA@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/4/21 8:24 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 16:39, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <f4bug@amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/3/21 7:54 PM, Richard Henderson wrote:
>>> On 3/3/21 10:45 AM, Claudio Fontana wrote:
>>>> It is a bit weird that qemu-system-aarch64 runs with a cortex-a15
>>>> model tbh, as cortex-a15 is not capable of aarch64.
>>>
>>> No, but qemu-system-aarch64 is capable of 32-bit emulation (because most
>>> 64-bit cpus retain 32-bit mode).  It takes no extra effort to run
>>> cortex-a15 than it does a cortex-a57.
>>
>> IIRC qemu-system-arm starts the aa64 cores in 32-bit mode, while
> 
> ...no, it simply doesn't have them at all; it only has
> the 32-bit-only cores. We only support '64-bit core that
> starts in 32-bit mode' for KVM; it would be nice to have the
> TCG support for that but nobody's ever written it.
> 
>> qemu-system-aarch64 in 64-bit (this gave me trouble because the
>> kernels for the raspi 64-bit SoCs are in 32-bit mode -- because
>> the GPU starts them in this mode).
>>
>>> I have wondered if we should have just one qemu-system-arm that does it
>>> all and drop the separate qemu-system-aarch64 -- or vice versa.  But
>>> we've had the separation around so long I'm sure someone would be confused.
>>
>> That would be great cleanup IMHO.
> 
> I figure it's not really worth the bother until/unless we ever
> some day get to the holy grail of "one binary that supports
> multiple target architectures", at which point we could have
> one qemu-system for everything...
> 
> -- PMM
> 

"one small binary, with optionally pluggable modules for multiple target architectures and optional features" ?

Ciao,

Claudio










  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-05  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20210221092449.7545-1-cfontana@suse.de>
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-33-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-21  9:53   ` [RFC v1 32/38] target/arm: cpu: do not initialize TCG PMU for KVM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-21 13:59     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-22  6:11     ` Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-35-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-21  9:55   ` [RFC v1 34/38] target/arm: cpu: only initialize TCG gt timers under CONFIG_TCG Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-21 13:59     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-22  8:35       ` Claudio Fontana
2021-03-01 18:19       ` Olaf Hering
     [not found]   ` <87v9ak5cz0.fsf@linaro.org>
2021-02-23  9:12     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-23 11:01       ` Alex Bennée
2021-02-23 11:36         ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-23 12:38           ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-23 14:47         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-22  5:35 ` [RFC v1 00/38] arm cleanup experiment for kvm-only build Richard Henderson
2021-02-22  8:43   ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-22 11:56     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-22 16:08     ` Richard Henderson
2021-02-22 16:57       ` Alex Bennée
2021-02-23  9:17       ` Claudio Fontana
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-21-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  5:48   ` [RFC v1 20/38] target/arm: move arm_hcr_el2_eff to common_cpu Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-24-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  5:52   ` [RFC v1 23/38] target/arm: move arm_mmu_idx_el to common-cpu Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-25-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  6:02   ` [RFC v1 24/38] target/arm: move aa64_va_parameter_tbi,tbid,tcma and arm_rebuild_hflags Richard Henderson
2021-02-23 10:07     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-23 16:30       ` Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-26-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  6:04   ` [RFC v1 25/38] target/arm: move fp_exception_el outside of tcg helpers Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-27-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  6:05   ` [RFC v1 26/38] target/arm: move sve_exception_el to cpu Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-28-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  6:06   ` [RFC v1 27/38] target/arm: move sve_zcr_len_for_el to common_cpu Richard Henderson
2021-02-25 17:28     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-25 20:13       ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-26  4:01         ` Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-29-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  6:09   ` [RFC v1 28/38] target/arm: make arm_pmu_timer_cb TCG-only, starting tcg-stub Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-2-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  6:14   ` [RFC v1 01/38] target/arm: move translate modules to tcg/ Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-4-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  6:16   ` [RFC v1 03/38] arm: tcg: only build under CONFIG_TCG Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-6-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  6:21   ` [RFC v1 05/38] target/arm: wrap arm_cpu_exec_interrupt in CONFIG_TCG Richard Henderson
2021-02-22  8:31     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-22 15:54       ` Richard Henderson
2021-02-23  8:46         ` Claudio Fontana
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-9-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  6:29   ` [RFC v1 08/38] target/arm/tcg: split softmmu parts of v8_cp_reginfo and el2_cp_reginfo Richard Henderson
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-3-cfontana@suse.de>
2021-02-22  6:16   ` [RFC v1 02/38] target/arm: move helpers to tcg/ Richard Henderson
2021-02-22 17:20   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-5-cfontana@suse.de>
     [not found]   ` <87eeh857xf.fsf@linaro.org>
2021-02-23  8:44     ` [RFC v1 04/38] target/arm: move psci.c into tcg/softmmu/ Claudio Fontana
     [not found] ` <20210221092449.7545-7-cfontana@suse.de>
     [not found]   ` <87blcc57rj.fsf@linaro.org>
2021-02-23  8:55     ` [RFC v1 06/38] target/arm: split off cpu-softmmu.c Claudio Fontana
2021-02-23  9:16       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-23  9:35         ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-23 18:18           ` softmmu vs sysemu [Was: Re: [RFC v1 06/38] target/arm: split off cpu-softmmu.c] Claudio Fontana
2021-02-23 18:51             ` Richard Henderson
2021-02-23 23:43               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-24  0:06                 ` Richard Henderson
2021-02-24  9:20                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-24  9:30                     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-24 10:00                       ` Paolo Bonzini
     [not found] ` <875z2k53mn.fsf@linaro.org>
2021-02-23  9:18   ` [RFC v1 00/38] arm cleanup experiment for kvm-only build Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-01 11:52     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-03-01 16:23       ` Alex Bennée
2021-03-03 17:57         ` Claudio Fontana
2021-03-03 18:09           ` Peter Maydell
2021-03-03 18:17             ` Claudio Fontana
2021-03-03 18:20               ` Claudio Fontana
2021-03-03 18:30                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 18:39                 ` Richard Henderson
2021-03-03 18:45                   ` Claudio Fontana
2021-03-03 18:54                     ` Richard Henderson
2021-03-04 16:39                       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-04 17:19                         ` Claudio Fontana
2021-03-04 17:47                           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-04 19:24                         ` Peter Maydell
2021-03-05  9:04                           ` Claudio Fontana [this message]
2021-03-03 18:34           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 18:38             ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-23  9:18   ` Claudio Fontana

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