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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	tmgross@umich.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 2/4] rust: net::phy support C45 helpers
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 16:20:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e8a440c7-d0a6-4a5e-97ff-a8bcde662583@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240415104701.4772-3-fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 07:46:59PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> This patch adds the following helper functions for Clause 45:
> 
> - mdiobus_c45_read
> - mdiobus_c45_write
> - genphy_c45_read_status

We need to be very careful here, and try to avoid an issue we have in
the phylib core, if possible. C45 is a mix of two different things:

* The C45 MDIO bus protocol
* The C45 registers

You can access C45 registers using the C45 bus protocol. You can also
access C45 registers using C45 over C22. So there are two access
mechanisms to the C45 registers.

A PHY driver just wants to access C45 registers. It should not care
about what access mechanism is used, be it C45 bus protocol, or C45
over C22.

> +    /// Reads a given C45 PHY register.
> +    /// This function reads a hardware register and updates the stats so takes `&mut self`.
> +    pub fn c45_read(&mut self, devad: u8, regnum: u16) -> Result<u16> {
> +        let phydev = self.0.get();
> +        // SAFETY: `phydev` is pointing to a valid object by the type invariant of `Self`.
> +        // So it's just an FFI call.
> +        let ret = unsafe {
> +            bindings::mdiobus_c45_read(
> +                (*phydev).mdio.bus,
> +                (*phydev).mdio.addr,
> +                devad as i32,
> +                regnum.into(),
> +            )

So you have wrapped the C function mdiobus_c45_read(). This is going
to do a C45 bus protocol read. For this to work, the MDIO bus master
needs to support C45 bus protocol, and the PHY also needs to support
the C45 bus protocol. Not all MDIO bus masters and PHY devices
do. Some will need to use C45 over C22.

A PHY driver should know if a PHY device supports C45 bus protocol,
and if it supports C45 over C22. However, i PHY driver has no idea
what the bus master supports.

In phylib, we have a poorly defined phydev->is_c45. Its current
meaning is: "The device was found using the C45 bus protocol, not C22
protocol". One of the things phylib core then uses is_c45 for it to
direct the C functions phy_read_mmd() and phy_write_mmd() to perform a
C45 bus protocol access if true. If it is false, C45 over C22 is
performed instead. As a result, if a PHY is discovered using C22, C45
register access is then performed using C45 over C22, even thought the
PHY and bus might support C45 bus protocol. is_c45 is also used in
other places, e.g. to trigger auto-negotiation using C45 registers,
not C22 registers.

In summary, the C API is a bit of a mess.

For the Rust API we have two sensible choices:

1) It is the same mess as the C API, so hopefully one day we will fix
   both at the same time.

2) We define a different API which correctly separate C45 bus access
   from C45 registers.

How you currently defined the Rust API is neither of these.

       Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-15 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-15 10:46 [PATCH net-next v1 0/4] net: phy: add Applied Micro QT2025 PHY driver FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-15 10:46 ` [PATCH net-next v1 1/4] rust: net::phy support config_init driver callback FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-15 10:46 ` [PATCH net-next v1 2/4] rust: net::phy support C45 helpers FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-15 14:20   ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2024-04-16 11:40     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-16 12:38       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-16 13:21         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-16 22:07           ` Benno Lossin
2024-04-16 22:30             ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-17  8:20               ` Benno Lossin
2024-04-17 13:34                 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-18 12:47                   ` Benno Lossin
2024-04-18 14:32                     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-18 13:15                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-16  3:25   ` Trevor Gross
2024-05-27  2:00     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-15 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v1 3/4] rust: net::phy support Firmware API FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-15 11:10   ` Greg KH
2024-04-18 12:51     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-18 13:05       ` Greg KH
2024-04-18 13:07       ` Greg KH
2024-04-18 13:35         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-15 13:30   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-15 15:45   ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-04-18 13:10     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-15 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v1 4/4] net: phy: add Applied Micro QT2025 PHY driver FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-15 11:15   ` Greg KH
2024-04-18 13:00     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-18 13:10       ` Greg KH
2024-04-18 13:22         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-18 14:42       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-15 13:48   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-15 16:53   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-16  4:34   ` Trevor Gross
2024-04-16  6:58     ` Benno Lossin
2024-04-16 11:16       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-04-16 12:08     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-24  1:50       ` FUJITA Tomonori

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