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From: Stefano Babic <sbabic@denx.de>
To: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>, Stefano Babic <sbabic@denx.de>,
	Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de>,
	OpenEmbedded Core Mailing List
	<openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Cc: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>, Stefan Agner <stefan.agner@toradex.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] u-boot: Add {gen|deploy}_default_envs tasks to generate environment images
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 22:58:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ebd64202-de5e-68f8-d7bc-5d47b59128f8@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5835447d-e8fb-dd1a-5d13-1561e475758f@denx.de>

Hi Marek,

On 03/05/2018 18:59, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 05/03/2018 06:50 PM, Stefano Babic wrote:
>> On 03/05/2018 18:36, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>> On 05/03/2018 06:28 PM, Stefano Babic wrote:
>>>> On 27/04/2018 17:07, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>>>> On 04/27/2018 04:51 PM, Lukasz Majewski wrote:
>>>>>> This commit provides the ability to generate u-boot environment(s) as
>>>>>> images, which afterwards can be used to produce image (with wic) for
>>>>>> flashing (eMMC or SPI-NOR).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This change removes the need to run "env default" during production phase,
>>>>>> as proper environment (including redundant one) is already stored on
>>>>>> persistent memory (the CRC is also correct).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de>
>>>>>
>>>>> If your default env is correct, why do you need this ? I can see some
>>>>> use with non-default env, but then that can be wrapped into a separate
>>>>> recipe.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A use case is when the environment must be changed from user space.
>>>> fw_setenv will report the CRC error and it needs the default environment
>>>> to add changes. The default environment is linked together to fw_setenv,
>>>> but this prohibites to use fw_setenv for multiple boards and must be
>>>> explicitely built for that machine and with the same sources as u-boot
>>>> (at least, they must share the same CONFIG_EXTRA_ENV). If the default
>>>> environment is extracted, we could have a general (distro ?) fw_setenv.
>>>
>>> I think in that case, the real solution is to either build fw_setenv per
>>> machine 
>>
>> This is how we try to do now, fw_setenv is built per machine but it is
>> enough that u-boot-fw-utils is built in a different version as u-boot to
>> get a mess.
> 
> Well yes, if you mix and match packages, it becomes a mess. Isn't that
> to be expected ?
> 

Well, quite. But in the specific case, it is weird that the environment
tools are built by a separate recipe. u-boot-fw-utils generates binaries
from the same sources as u-boot (or it should), and building the tool
per machine means for me to have a single recipe for it, that generates
as additional package the env tools. This guarantees that they are
always in sync.

>>> OR fix fw_setenv to take env defaults from a file or somesuch ?
>>

Having a separate recipe as now means for me to try to have the tools
not per machine, and then makes sense to pass as input the default
environment to the tools.

>> Right, I interprete this patch as a step in this direction. This patch
>> generates a default that can be used as input for fw_setenv.
> 
> It generates environment images which can be written -- on certain
> specific setups -- into the flash. It doesn't generate any sort of input
> for the fw_setenv to my knowledge ?

Not the current patch - we are discussing how it could evolve ;-)

Regards,
Stefano

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-03 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-27 14:51 [PATCH] u-boot: Add {gen|deploy}_default_envs tasks to generate environment images Lukasz Majewski
2018-04-27 15:07 ` Marek Vasut
2018-04-27 16:15   ` Lukasz Majewski
2018-04-27 17:37     ` Marek Vasut
2018-04-29 13:53       ` Lukasz Majewski
2018-04-29 14:07         ` Marek Vasut
2018-04-30 14:03       ` Otavio Salvador
2018-04-30 17:32         ` Marek Vasut
2018-05-03 16:28   ` Stefano Babic
2018-05-03 16:36     ` Marek Vasut
2018-05-03 16:50       ` Stefano Babic
2018-05-03 16:59         ` Marek Vasut
2018-05-03 18:15           ` Lukasz Majewski
2018-05-03 19:02             ` Marek Vasut
2018-05-09 11:45               ` Lukasz Majewski
2018-05-09 11:57                 ` Marek Vasut
2018-05-03 20:58           ` Stefano Babic [this message]
2018-05-03 23:04             ` Marek Vasut
2018-04-30  6:50 ` Martin Hundebøll
2018-04-30  8:18   ` Lukasz Majewski
2018-04-30 13:23   ` Martin Jansa
2018-04-30 13:26     ` Martin Jansa
2018-04-30 14:22       ` Lukasz Majewski
2018-05-03 16:24 ` Stefano Babic
2018-05-03 18:17   ` Lukasz Majewski

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