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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Liu, Jing2" <jing2.liu@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Bae, Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 13/31] x86/fpu: Move KVMs FPU swapping to FPU core
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 08:50:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ec9c761d-4b5c-71e2-c1fc-d256b6b78c04@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871r4p9fyh.ffs@tglx>

On 13/10/21 16:06, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> - the guest value stored in vcpu->arch.
>>
>> - the "QEMU" value attached to host_fpu.  This one only becomes zero if
>> QEMU requires AMX (which shouldn't happen).
> 
> I don't think that makes sense.
> 
> First of all, if QEMU wants to expose AMX to guests, then it has to ask
> for permission to do so as any other user space process. We're not going
> to make that special just because.

Hmm, I would have preferred if there was no need to enable AMX for the 
QEMU FPU.  But you're saying that guest_fpu needs to swap out to 
current->thread.fpu if the guest is preempted, which would require 
XFD=0; and affect QEMU operation as well.

In principle I don't like it very much; it would be nicer to say "you 
enable it for QEMU itself via arch_prctl(ARCH_SET_STATE_ENABLE), and for 
the guests via ioctl(KVM_SET_CPUID2)".  But I can see why you want to 
keep things simple, so it's not a strong objection at all.

> Anything else will just create more problems than it solves. Especially
> #NM handling (think nested guest) and the XFD_ERR additive behaviour
> will be a nasty playground and easy to get wrong.
> 
> Not having that at all makes life way simpler, right?

It is simpler indeed, and it makes sense to start simple.  I am not sure 
if it will hold, but I agree it's better for the first implementation.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-14  6:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-11 23:59 [patch 00/31] x86/fpu: Preparatory cleanups for AMX support (part 1) Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-11 23:59 ` [patch 01/31] x86/fpu: Remove pointless argument from switch_fpu_finish() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 02/31] x86/fpu: Update stale comments Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 03/31] x86/pkru: Remove useless include Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 04/31] x86/fpu: Restrict xsaves()/xrstors() to independent states Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 14:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 05/31] x86/fpu: Cleanup the on_boot_cpu clutter Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 06/31] x86/fpu: Remove pointless memset in fpu_clone() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 07/31] x86/process: Clone FPU in copy_thread() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 08/31] x86/fpu: Do not inherit FPU context for kernel and IO worker threads Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 09/31] x86/fpu: Do not inherit FPU context for CLONE_THREAD Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 16:10   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 18:52     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 19:01       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 10/31] x86/fpu: Cleanup xstate xcomp_bv initialization Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 11/31] x86/fpu/xstate: Provide and use for_each_xfeature() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 16:45   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 12/31] x86/fpu/xstate: Mark all init only functions __init Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 13/31] x86/fpu: Move KVMs FPU swapping to FPU core Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 16:53   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 18:25     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 18:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:22   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13  6:15     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-13  6:26       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13  7:46         ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-13  8:42           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 10:14             ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-13 12:26               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 14:14                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 14:24                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 14:59                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-13 15:05                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 10:25             ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-13 12:37               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 14:06             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14  6:50               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2021-10-14  8:02                 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14  9:01                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 11:21                     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 11:33                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 11:30                     ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 11:39                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-22  8:50                         ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 14:09                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 14:37                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 15:01                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 19:14                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15  9:20                           ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-15  9:36                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 14:24                             ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-15 15:53                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-16 14:45                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15  9:00                         ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-15 10:50                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 11:17                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-15 13:01                             ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 12:23                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14 12:26                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-14 14:23                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13 15:12       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-14  8:21         ` Liu, Jing2
2021-10-14 13:08           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 14/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs homebrewn FPU copy from user Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:00   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-13 14:57     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-10-13 15:12       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-13 15:16       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:30   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 15/31] x86/fpu: Rework copy_xstate_to_uabi_buf() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:30   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 16/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs homebrewn FPU copy to user Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:10   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12 17:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12 17:47     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 18:40       ` [patch V2 16/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs home brewed " Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-13  5:34       ` [patch 16/31] x86/fpu: Replace KVMs homebrewn " Paolo Bonzini
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 17/31] x86/fpu: Mark fpu__init_prepare_fx_sw_frame() as __init Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 18/31] x86/fpu: Move context switch and exit to user inlines into sched.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 19/31] x86/fpu: Clean up cpu feature tests Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 20/31] x86/fpu: Make os_xrstor_booting() private Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 21/31] x86/fpu: Move os_xsave() and os_xrstor() to core Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 22/31] x86/fpu: Move legacy ASM wrappers " Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 23/31] x86/fpu: Make WARN_ON_FPU() private Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 24/31] x86/fpu: Move fpregs_restore_userregs() to core Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:32   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 25/31] x86/fpu: Move mxcsr related code " Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 26/31] x86/fpu: Move fpstate functions to api.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 17:46   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 27/31] x86/fpu: Remove internal.h dependency from fpu/signal.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 28/31] x86/sev: Include fpu/xcr.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  7:24   ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 29/31] x86/fpu: Mop up the internal.h leftovers Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 30/31] x86/fpu: Replace the includes of fpu/internal.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12  0:00 ` [patch 31/31] x86/fpu: Provide a proper function for ex_handler_fprestore() Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-12 21:15 ` [patch 00/31] x86/fpu: Preparatory cleanups for AMX support (part 1) Thomas Gleixner

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