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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Samuel Thibault" <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>,
	"Andrew Jeffery" <andrew@aj.id.au>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-arm@nongnu.org" <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>,
	"Peter Delevoryas" <pdel@fb.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Deprecate 32-bit hosts? (was: Re: [PULL 14/14] hw/arm/aspeed: Add Fuji machine type)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 09:42:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee5d379f-a792-aae1-370a-b5f21582ae58@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1949e204-1bce-f15b-553b-1b42b41e3e08@linaro.org>

On 14/09/2021 17.22, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 9/14/21 5:26 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> (2) RAM blocks should have a length that fits inside a
>>      signed 32-bit type on 32-bit hosts (at least I assume this
>>      is where the 2047MB limit is coming from; in theory this ought
>>      to be improveable but auditing the code for mishandling of
>>      RAMblock sizes to ensure we weren't accidentally stuffing
>>      their size into a signed 'long' somewhere would be kind
>>      of painful)
> 
> Recalling that the win64 abi model is p64, i.e. 'long' is still 32-bit while 
> pointers are 64-bit, how close do we think we are to this being fixed already?
> 
>> Even if we did fix (2) we'd need to compromise on (3)
>> sometimes still -- if a board has 4GB of RAM that's
>> not going to fit in 32 bits regardless. But we would be
>> able to let boards with 2GB have 2GB.
> 
> I'm not opposed to deprecating 32-bit hosts...  ;-)

I think we should consider this again, indeed. Plain 32-bit CPUs are quite 
seldom these days, aren't they? And I think we urgently need to decrease the 
amount of things that we have to test and maintain in our CI and developer 
branches... So is there still a really really compelling reason to keep 
32-bit host support alive?
Could we maybe also decrease the amount of targets, i.e. merge 
qemu-system-x86_64 and qemu-system-i386, merge qemu-system-ppc64 and 
qemu-system-ppc, etc. where it makes sense (i.e. where one of the binaries 
is a superset of the other)?

  Thomas



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-15  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-13 16:12 [PULL 00/14] aspeed queue Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:12 ` [PULL 01/14] hw: arm: aspeed: Enable eth0 interface for aspeed-ast2600-evb Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:12 ` [PULL 02/14] hw: arm: aspeed: Enable mac0/1 instead of mac1/2 for g220a Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:12 ` [PULL 03/14] watchdog: aspeed: Sanitize control register values Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:12 ` [PULL 04/14] watchdog: aspeed: Fix sequential control writes Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:12 ` [PULL 05/14] hw: aspeed_gpio: Simplify 1.8V defines Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:12 ` [PULL 06/14] hw: aspeed_gpio: Clarify GPIO controller name Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:12 ` [PULL 07/14] misc/pca9552: Fix LED status register indexing in pca955x_get_led() Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:12 ` [PULL 08/14] arm/aspeed: rainier: Add i2c eeproms and muxes Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:12 ` [PULL 09/14] aspeed: Emulate the AST2600A3 Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:13 ` [PULL 10/14] hw/misc: Add Infineon DPS310 sensor model Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:13 ` [PULL 11/14] arm/aspeed: Add DPS310 to Witherspoon and Rainier Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:13 ` [PULL 12/14] hw/arm/aspeed: Initialize AST2600 UART clock selection registers Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:13 ` [PULL 13/14] hw/arm/aspeed: Allow machine to set UART default Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-13 16:13 ` [PULL 14/14] hw/arm/aspeed: Add Fuji machine type Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-14 10:56   ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-14 11:59     ` Peter Delevoryas
2021-09-14 12:14       ` Joel Stanley
2021-09-14 12:26         ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-14 15:22           ` Richard Henderson
2021-09-15  7:42             ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2021-09-15  7:54               ` Deprecate 32-bit hosts? (was: Re: [PULL 14/14] hw/arm/aspeed: Add Fuji machine type) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-09-15  8:37               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-15  8:51                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-09-15  9:05                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-16 12:29             ` [PULL 14/14] hw/arm/aspeed: Add Fuji machine type Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-16 13:53               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-09-16 14:06                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-16 14:07                   ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-14 10:51 ` [PULL 00/14] aspeed queue Peter Maydell
2021-09-14 10:58   ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-14 11:38     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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