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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, newren@gmail.com, peff@peff.net,
	jrnieder@gmail.com, sunshine@sunshineco.com, pclouds@gmail.com,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/27] [RFC] Sparse Index
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:18:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef05a917-e3ec-7099-bc44-e53e31d63a8e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqh7n4ydyw.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>



On 1/25/21 3:10 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> "Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> This RFC proposes an update to the index formats to allow "sparse directory
>> entries". These entries correspond to directories that are completely
>> excluded from the sparse checkout definition. We can detect that a directory
>> is excluded when using "cone mode" patterns.
> 
> Yay.
> 
>> Since having directory entries is a radical departure from the existing
>> index format, a new extension "extensions.sparseIndex" is added. Using a
>> sparse index should cause incompatible tools to fail because they do not
>> understand this extension.
> 
> Safety is good, but because the index is purely a local matter, we
> do not have to be so careful as updating the network protocols or
> pack/object formats.
> 
> I think the use of "extensions.*" mechanism to render the repository
> that uses the new feature unusable by older Git is safe enough, but
> it may be too draconian.  For example, when things go wrong, don't
> you want to "fetch"/"clone" from it into another repository to first
> save the objects and refs?  You do not need a version of the index
> file you understand in order to do that.
> 
> The index format has a mechanism to make older versions of Git bail
> when it encounters a file that uses newer feature that they do not
> understand.  Perhaps using it is sufficient instead?

There are interesting subtleties with the differences between index
formats 2, 3, and 4 that are worth keeping around. Perhaps the
extension could be a mechanism for allowing sparse directories in
those versions, but then a future "index version 5" includes sparse
directories without the extension.

I could spend time working on such an index v5 in parallel with
the updates to Git commands to make them sparse aware. The logic
from patches 1-14 in this series will be required before that could
begin.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-25 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-25 17:41 [PATCH 00/27] [RFC] Sparse Index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 01/27] sparse-index: add guard to ensure full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 02/27] sparse-index: implement ensure_full_index() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27  3:05   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-27 13:43     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-27 16:38       ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-28  5:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 03/27] t1092: compare sparse-checkout to sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27  3:08   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-27 13:30     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-27 16:54       ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 04/27] test-read-cache: print cache entries with --table Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27  3:25   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 05/27] test-tool: read-cache --table --no-stat Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 06/27] test-tool: don't force full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 07/27] unpack-trees: ensure " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27  4:43   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 08/27] sparse-checkout: hold pattern list in index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27 17:00   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-28 13:12     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 09/27] sparse-index: convert from full to sparse Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27 17:30   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 10/27] submodule: sparse-index should not collapse links Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 11/27] unpack-trees: allow sparse directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27 17:36   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 12/27] sparse-index: check index conversion happens Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27 17:46   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:41 ` [PATCH 13/27] sparse-index: create extension for compatibility Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27 18:03   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 14/27] sparse-checkout: toggle sparse index from builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-27 18:18   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-28 15:26     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 15/27] [RFC-VERSION] *: ensure full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-01 20:22   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-01 21:10     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 16/27] unpack-trees: make sparse aware Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-01 20:50   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 17:23     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 17/27] dir.c: accept a directory as part of cone-mode patterns Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-01 22:12   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 18/27] status: use sparse-index throughout Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 19/27] status: skip sparse-checkout percentage with sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 20/27] sparse-index: expand_to_path() trivial implementation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 21/27] sparse-index: expand_to_path no-op if path exists Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-01 22:34   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 22/27] add: allow operating on a sparse-only index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-01 23:08   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 23/27] submodule: die_path_inside_submodule is sparse aware Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 24/27] dir: use expand_to_path in add_patterns() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-01 23:21   ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 25/27] fsmonitor: disable if index is sparse Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 26/27] pathspec: stop calling ensure_full_index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-01 23:24   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-02  2:39     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-25 17:42 ` [PATCH 27/27] cache-tree: integrate with sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-01 23:54   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-02  2:41     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-02  3:05       ` Elijah Newren
2021-01-25 20:10 ` [PATCH 00/27] [RFC] Sparse Index Junio C Hamano
2021-01-25 21:18   ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2021-02-02  3:11 ` Elijah Newren

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