From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3C1C433E0 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC55224F9 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1731187AbhAYUBb (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 15:01:31 -0500 Received: from lpdvacalvio01.broadcom.com ([192.19.229.182]:44124 "EHLO relay.smtp-ext.broadcom.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1732140AbhAYT4J (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:56:09 -0500 Received: from [10.136.13.65] (lbrmn-lnxub113.ric.broadcom.net [10.136.13.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay.smtp-ext.broadcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92EDF7A28; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:55:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 relay.smtp-ext.broadcom.com 92EDF7A28 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=broadcom.com; s=dkimrelay; t=1611604512; bh=L29mAEJ6cru7ET5XOlCC3ggXmPlpoV2+85bRSMdiplg=; h=To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:From; b=S6CxXpQSvNy8NqrOhoy/h5KNBWmu6n+d5AfZtm7SiNcpfaBpv+8hUsaKekM1Ige5A d4fU+FiQThCdABltwFjGQVhHvGvip/NURoplC3beMRM1mvxtHovAjxineunZhE+dp+ DNs37mhdAgFamj6JXIaCoVwS+d1+ukFb/Mq1hve4= To: Linux ARM , LKML , Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: BCM Kernel Feedback From: Scott Branden Subject: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:55:11 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-CA Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi All, The 5.10 LTS kernel being officially LTS supported for 2 years presents a problem: why would anyone select a 5.10 kernel with 2 year LTS when 5.4 kernel has a 6 year LTS. Yet, various unofficial reports indicate it will be supported for 6 years.  And AOSP has already declared the use of 5.10 kernel in their Android S and T releases. Is there some way we could make the LTS support more clear. A 2 year declaration is not LTS any more. If 5.10 is "actually" going to be supported for 6 years it would be quite valuable to make such a declaration. https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html Regards,  Scott From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2321AC433E6 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6CB62072C for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:56:53 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org B6CB62072C Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=broadcom.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From:To: Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender :Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Owner; bh=952uwXmiamePSH8v3T/yGEs1HXEajdtdX4SRMqFi0Ts=; b=PfgN+W+bns37dYKclsR8kMTKDH Y1N+xlG4PQRrZylpN1MCOpWbuHJ/VBuhojw3vicfQ9LRonS/8/aTN6fbMnQJ3IkSGYjnbWmViB+GC 26rIG9A4hvS6T4RtILBmL2S5cWsyFKHiEfASBUFbZouBoP06oLg1kE9LKtgrdMScdStGXhWAS07jD IWHmFQ2Ue1pkAHsxfoOrqByeZNJ3CZIAyEnrA0vgT4C32HuFFIB8l/3xWSxiYjCIm3j0LhssiIu2q fpi59in6Jd90uXKOonYspESaKCZqoZ2cmPUmogO2dom/XnbI6nqg1wHnLeP7qa6fyQuZ6c9mr6vyY k6jVYJtg==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1l47xI-0007Xs-Ax; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:55:20 +0000 Received: from lpdvacalvio01.broadcom.com ([192.19.229.182] helo=relay.smtp-ext.broadcom.com) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1l47xE-0007WR-SN for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:55:18 +0000 Received: from [10.136.13.65] (lbrmn-lnxub113.ric.broadcom.net [10.136.13.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay.smtp-ext.broadcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92EDF7A28; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:55:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 relay.smtp-ext.broadcom.com 92EDF7A28 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=broadcom.com; s=dkimrelay; t=1611604512; bh=L29mAEJ6cru7ET5XOlCC3ggXmPlpoV2+85bRSMdiplg=; h=To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:From; b=S6CxXpQSvNy8NqrOhoy/h5KNBWmu6n+d5AfZtm7SiNcpfaBpv+8hUsaKekM1Ige5A d4fU+FiQThCdABltwFjGQVhHvGvip/NURoplC3beMRM1mvxtHovAjxineunZhE+dp+ DNs37mhdAgFamj6JXIaCoVwS+d1+ukFb/Mq1hve4= To: Linux ARM , LKML , Greg Kroah-Hartman From: Scott Branden Subject: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? 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