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From: "Horia Geantă" <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
To: Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Aymen Sghaier <aymen.sghaier@nxp.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>
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	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
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	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Steffen Trumtrar <s.trumtrar@pengutronix.de>,
	Udit Agarwal <udit.agarwal@nxp.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] KEYS: trusted: Introduce support for NXP CAAM-based trusted keys
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 22:01:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0f43b30-3dfb-c2a0-7f69-6e5488f871cd@nxp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.56fff82362af6228372ea82e6bd7e586e23f0966.1615914058.git-series.a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>

On 3/16/2021 7:02 PM, Ahmad Fatoum wrote:
> The Cryptographic Acceleration and Assurance Module (CAAM) is an IP core
> built into many newer i.MX and QorIQ SoCs by NXP.
> 
> Its blob mechanism can AES encrypt/decrypt user data using a unique
> never-disclosed device-specific key. There has been multiple
> discussions on how to represent this within the kernel:
> 
>  - [RFC] crypto: caam - add red blobifier
>    Steffen implemented[1] a PoC sysfs driver to start a discussion on how to
>    best integrate the blob mechanism.
>    Mimi suggested that it could be used to implement trusted keys.
>    Trusted keys back then were a TPM-only feature.
> 
>  - security/keys/secure_key: Adds the secure key support based on CAAM.
>    Udit added[2] a new "secure" key type with the CAAM as backend. The key
>    material stays within the kernel only.
>    Mimi and James agreed that this needs a generic interface, not specific
>    to CAAM. Mimi suggested trusted keys. Jan noted that this could serve as
>    basis for TEE-backed keys.
> 
>  - [RFC] drivers: crypto: caam: key: Add caam_tk key type
>    Franck added[3] a new "caam_tk" key type based on Udit's work. The key
>    material stays within the kernel only, but can optionally be user-set
>    instead of coming from RNG. James voiced the opinion that there should
>    be just one user-facing generic wrap/unwrap key type with multiple
>    possible handlers. David suggested trusted keys.
> 
The whole point was to use caam "black blobs", with the main advantage of
keys being kept encrypted in memory after "unsealing" the blobs.
(Keys in blobs are encrypted with a persistent BKEK - blob KEK, derived from
fuse-based OTPMK. OTOH black keys are keys encrypted with an ephemeral, random
KEK that is stored in an internal caam register. When a black blob is unsealed,
the key is practically rekeyed, the random key replacing the BKEK; key is never
exposed in plaintext, rekeying happens in caam).

Current implementation uses "red blobs", which means keys are left unprotected
in memory after blobs are unsealed.

>  - Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys support
>    Sumit reworked[4] trusted keys to support multiple possible backends with
>    one chosen at boot time and added a new TEE backend along with TPM.
>    This now sits in Jarkko's master branch to be sent out for v5.13
> 
> This patch series builds on top of Sumit's rework to have the CAAM as yet another
> trusted key backend.
> 
Shouldn't the description under TRUSTED_KEYS (in security/keys/Kconfig)
be updated to reflect the availability of multiple backends?

Thanks,
Horia

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-21 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-16 17:01 [PATCH v1 0/3] KEYS: trusted: Introduce support for NXP CAAM-based trusted keys Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] crypto: caam - add in-kernel interface for blob generator Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-21 20:46   ` Horia Geantă
2021-03-23 16:41     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] KEYS: trusted: implement fallback to kernel RNG Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] KEYS: trusted: Introduce support for NXP CAAM-based trusted keys Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 19:22   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-17 13:58     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 23:14   ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-17  7:39     ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-17  8:07       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-17 14:02     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-30 21:28       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-21 20:48   ` Horia Geantă
2021-03-23 16:35     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-23 18:07       ` Mimi Zohar
2021-03-24  9:26         ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-24 10:47           ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-24 14:07             ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-25  5:26               ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-27 12:41                 ` David Gstir
2021-03-28 20:37                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-29 10:11                     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-31 23:29                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-30  7:26                     ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-31 23:30                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-04-01  7:41                         ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-30 21:47                     ` Eric Biggers
2021-03-31 23:31                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-31 23:34                         ` Eric Biggers
2021-04-01  1:11                           ` Herbert Xu
2021-04-01  5:50                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-04-01  6:03                               ` Eric Biggers
2021-04-01  5:46                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-24 16:14         ` James Bottomley
2021-03-24 20:49           ` Mimi Zohar
2021-03-24 21:58             ` James Bottomley
2021-04-02  1:49           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-03-31 18:35   ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:15     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 10:23       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-16 23:10 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] " Richard Weinberger
2021-03-17 14:08   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-30 21:50     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:04       ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 10:20         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:28           ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 10:53             ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:57               ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 11:05                 ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 11:13                   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 11:16                     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-30 22:04     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-30 22:16       ` James Bottomley
2021-03-31 18:36         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-31 18:49           ` James Bottomley
2021-03-31 19:36             ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:06               ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 13:20                 ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 18:26                   ` James Bottomley
2021-04-01 12:55       ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 13:17         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 13:30           ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 13:52             ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 13:59               ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 14:12                 ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 11:11     ` David Howells
2021-03-21 20:01 ` Horia Geantă [this message]
2021-03-23 16:34   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-24  6:23     ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-23 16:37   ` Ahmad Fatoum

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