From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1fnSva-0006Q6-VZ for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 14:11:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35764) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fnSvY-0006Pw-LQ for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 14:11:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fnSvV-0003s5-CW for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 14:11:20 -0400 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]:42896) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fnSvV-0003q1-3o for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 14:11:17 -0400 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.85) with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (envelope-from ) id <1fnSvT-000OhO-2v>; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:11:15 +0200 Received: from z92e7.pia.fu-berlin.de ([87.77.146.231] helo=[10.146.231.3]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.85) with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (envelope-from ) id <1fnSvS-003HrY-Pd>; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:11:15 +0200 Subject: Re: Recent removal of a.out and COFF support for sparc To: Cary Coutant Cc: Alan Modra , Binutils , The development of GNU GRUB References: <2d2f1c2a-1715-1348-c35a-ad562a3acbb2@physik.fu-berlin.de> <27449274-9250-97a3-1ff9-8b9c818659d4@physik.fu-berlin.de> <20180808015529.GP26457@bubble.grove.modra.org> <20180808131659.GA1544@bubble.grove.modra.org> <643f686e-d568-978d-07ab-31a62336966f@physik.fu-berlin.de> <91ae25c5-4af2-575f-b167-7e46027de7df@physik.fu-berlin.de> From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 20:11:13 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 87.77.146.231 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 130.133.4.66 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 18:11:21 -0000 On 08/08/2018 07:08 PM, Cary Coutant wrote: >>> Why isn't *what* done on gold? Gold is ELF-only and doesn't use BFD. >> >> Development of new features. I know that Gold is ELF-only that's why >> I was wondering why BFD isn't just kept in maintenance mode. > > Gold supports only a small fraction of the platforms that BFD does, Which of the platforms that are still relevant for commercial applications are supported by BFD which are not supported by Gold? As far as I know, Gold support x86*, POWER*, ARM*, s390* and MIPS* which covers all of the targets that distributions like Fedora, openSUSE and Debian consider as supported release architectures. > and many of those platforms don't use ELF. In addition, almost all of > the other binutils tools use BFD. BFD is far from being relegated to > maintenance mode. What about elfutils for these purposes? I have been told by gcc people that elfutils was supposed to replace binutils in this regard. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaubitz@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913