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From: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>
To: Vincent MAILHOL <mailhol.vincent@wanadoo.fr>
Cc: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
	linux-can <linux-can@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Max Staudt <max@enpas.org>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 22:12:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f161fdd0-415a-8ea1-0aad-3a3a19f1bfa8@hartkopp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMZ6RqKWUyf6dZmxG809-yvjg5wbLwPSLtEfv-MgPpJ5ra=iGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Vincent,

On 07.06.22 04:49, Vincent MAILHOL wrote:
> On Tue. 7 Jun. 2022 at 04:43, Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net> wrote:
>>

>>>             |
>>>             +-> All other CAN devices not relying on RX offload
>>>             |
>>>             +-> CAN rx offload
>>>                 symbol: CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD
>>
>> Is this still true in patch series 5?
>>
>> If I understood it correctly CONFIG_CAN_BITTIMING and
>> CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD can be enabled by the user and
>> (alternatively/additionally) the selection of "flexcan, m_can, mcp251xfd
>> and ti_hecc" enables CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD too.
>>
>> Right?
> 
> Yes, this is correct. Maybe what troubles you is the meaning of the
> "x --> y" arrow in the graph. I said it denotes that "y depends on x".
> Here "depends on" has a loose meaning. It translates to either:
>    * Feature Y is encapsulated in Kbuild by some "if X/endif" and won't
> show up unless X is selected.
>    * Feature Y has a "selects X" tag and will forcibly enable X if selected.
> 
> CONFIG_CAN_*CALC*_BITTIMING is on the left side of an arrow starting
> from CONFIG_CAN_NETLINK so it "depends" on CONFIG_CAN_NETLINK. On the
> other hand, CONFIG_CAN_*CALC*_BITTIMING does not have any arrow
> starting from it so indeed, it can be enabled by the user
> independently of the other features as long as CONFIG_CAN_NETLINK is
> selected.

Ok.

> CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD is also on the left side of an arrow starting
> from CONFIG_CAN_NETLINK. Furthermore, there is an arrow starting from
> CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD going to the "rx offload drivers". So those
> drivers need CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD (which is implemented using the
> "selects CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD"). However, CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD can
> be selected independently of the "rx offload drivers" as long as its
> CONFIG_CAN_NETLINK dependency is met.
> 
> So I think that the diagram is correct. Maybe rephrasing the cover
> letter as below would address your concerns?
I applied your series and played with the options and it works like 
charm - and as expected.

But the point remains that from your figure I would still assume that 
the M_CAN driver would only show up when CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD was 
selected by the user.

But the current (good) implementation shows *all* drivers and selects 
CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD when e.g. M_CAN is selected.

So what about:

   symbol: CONFIG_NETDEVICES
   |
   +-> CAN Device Drivers
       symbol: CONFIG_CAN_DEV
       |
       +-> software/virtual CAN device drivers
       |   (at time of writing: slcan, vcan, vxcan)
       |
       +-> hardware CAN device drivers with Netlink support
           symbol: CONFIG_CAN_NETLINK (matches previous CONFIG_CAN_DEV)
           |
           +-> CAN bit-timing calculation (optional for all drivers)
           |   symbol: CONFIG_CAN_BITTIMING
           |
           +-> CAN rx offload (optional but selected by some drivers)
           |   symbol: CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD
           |
           +-> CAN devices drivers
               (some may select CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD)

(I also added 'hardware' to CAN device drivers with Netlink support) to 
have a distinction to 'software/virtual' CAN device drivers)

At least this would help me to understand the new configuration setup.

Best regards,
Oliver

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-08  0:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-13 14:23 [PATCH 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] can: move can_dropped_invalid_skb from skb.h to dev.h Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is " Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-13 15:20   ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-13 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 15:36   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14  4:20     ` kernel test robot
2022-05-14  5:16       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14  5:16         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 11:17         ` Max Staudt
2022-05-14 11:17           ` Max Staudt
2022-05-13 15:36   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 17:40   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is " Max Staudt
2022-05-14  3:00     ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] can: can_dropped_invalid_skb() and Kbuild changes Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] can: slcan: use can_dropped_invalid_skb() instead of manual check Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-16 20:40     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] can: Kconfig: change CAN_DEV into a menuconfig Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-15 19:17     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17  1:50       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-17  4:12         ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17  6:08         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17  7:04           ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-17 10:45             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 11:51               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 12:14                 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 12:21                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 12:39                     ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 13:35                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 13:43                         ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 14:23                           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 14:35                           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 15:38                             ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 15:50                               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 17:52                                 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-18 12:03                         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 12:12                           ` Device Drivers: (was: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c) Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 12:45                             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 13:10                           ` [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 13:28                             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 14:07                               ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 14:33                                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 14:36                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 14:38                                     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 14:55                                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 15:38                                         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 15:48                                           ` Max Staudt
2022-05-18 16:01                                             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 1/7] can: Kbuild: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:27     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:30       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 12:43         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 13:46     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:25     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:21       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 12:41         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:56           ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 13:51             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:22     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:14       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:46   ` [PATCH v4 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 13:05     ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 13:55       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 14:59         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 15:18           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 16:32             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-05 10:39               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-05 13:57                 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-05 18:08                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v5 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 1/7] can: Kbuild: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-07  8:43     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-06-07  9:27       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07 16:22         ` Max Staudt
2022-06-07 22:06           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-07 23:40             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-08  0:07               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-07 23:43             ` Max Staudt
2022-06-08  0:14               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-08  0:22                 ` Max Staudt
2022-06-08  1:38                 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:30   ` [PATCH v5 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-05 17:23   ` [PATCH v5 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Max Staudt
2022-06-05 18:06     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-05 20:46       ` Max Staudt
2022-06-06  0:24         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-06 19:24   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07  2:49     ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07  7:13       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-07  8:49         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07 20:12       ` Oliver Hartkopp [this message]
2022-06-07 20:27         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-07 20:51           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07 23:59             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-08 20:10               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 1/7] can: Kconfig: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 21:38   ` [PATCH v6 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-10 22:43   ` Max Staudt
2022-06-11 15:17   ` Marc Kleine-Budde

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