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Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Incremental receive completes succesfully despite missing files To: Hans van Kranenburg , Andrei Borzenkov , Dennis Katsonis Cc: Btrfs BTRFS , David Sterba References: <110c46c8-6fe9-84ea-0f4e-8269fd8000ed@netspace.net.au> <3cfb98e1-92d4-150c-445c-9357cec9adca@netspace.net.au> <8e5c7ee5-4507-66d2-6642-2e37ff11b897@mendix.com> From: Nikolay Borisov Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=nborisov@suse.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFiKBz4BEADNHZmqwhuN6EAzXj9SpPpH/nSSP8YgfwoOqwrP+JR4pIqRK0AWWeWCSwmZ T7g+RbfPFlmQp+EwFWOtABXlKC54zgSf+uulGwx5JAUFVUIRBmnHOYi/lUiE0yhpnb1KCA7f u/W+DkwGerXqhhe9TvQoGwgCKNfzFPZoM+gZrm+kWv03QLUCr210n4cwaCPJ0Nr9Z3c582xc bCUVbsjt7BN0CFa2BByulrx5xD9sDAYIqfLCcZetAqsTRGxM7LD0kh5WlKzOeAXj5r8DOrU2 GdZS33uKZI/kZJZVytSmZpswDsKhnGzRN1BANGP8sC+WD4eRXajOmNh2HL4P+meO1TlM3GLl EQd2shHFY0qjEo7wxKZI1RyZZ5AgJnSmehrPCyuIyVY210CbMaIKHUIsTqRgY5GaNME24w7h TyyVCy2qAM8fLJ4Vw5bycM/u5xfWm7gyTb9V1TkZ3o1MTrEsrcqFiRrBY94Rs0oQkZvunqia c+NprYSaOG1Cta14o94eMH271Kka/reEwSZkC7T+o9hZ4zi2CcLcY0DXj0qdId7vUKSJjEep c++s8ncFekh1MPhkOgNj8pk17OAESanmDwksmzh1j12lgA5lTFPrJeRNu6/isC2zyZhTwMWs k3LkcTa8ZXxh0RfWAqgx/ogKPk4ZxOXQEZetkEyTFghbRH2BIwARAQABtCNOaWtvbGF5IEJv cmlzb3YgPG5ib3Jpc292QHN1c2UuY29tPokCOAQTAQIAIgUCWIo48QIbAwYLCQgHAwIGFQgC CQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQcb6CRuU/KFc0eg/9GLD3wTQz9iZHMFbjiqTCitD7B6dTLV1C ddZVlC8Hm/TophPts1bWZORAmYIihHHI1EIF19+bfIr46pvfTu0yFrJDLOADMDH+Ufzsfy2v HSqqWV/nOSWGXzh8bgg/ncLwrIdEwBQBN9SDS6aqsglagvwFD91UCg/TshLlRxD5BOnuzfzI Leyx2c6YmH7Oa1R4MX9Jo79SaKwdHt2yRN3SochVtxCyafDlZsE/efp21pMiaK1HoCOZTBp5 VzrIP85GATh18pN7YR9CuPxxN0V6IzT7IlhS4Jgj0NXh6vi1DlmKspr+FOevu4RVXqqcNTSS E2rycB2v6cttH21UUdu/0FtMBKh+rv8+yD49FxMYnTi1jwVzr208vDdRU2v7Ij/TxYt/v4O8 V+jNRKy5Fevca/1xroQBICXsNoFLr10X5IjmhAhqIH8Atpz/89ItS3+HWuE4BHB6RRLM0gy8 T7rN6ja+KegOGikp/VTwBlszhvfLhyoyjXI44Tf3oLSFM+8+qG3B7MNBHOt60CQlMkq0fGXd mm4xENl/SSeHsiomdveeq7cNGpHi6i6ntZK33XJLwvyf00PD7tip/GUj0Dic/ZUsoPSTF/mG EpuQiUZs8X2xjK/AS/l3wa4Kz2tlcOKSKpIpna7V1+CMNkNzaCOlbv7QwprAerKYywPCoOSC 7P25Ag0EWIoHPgEQAMiUqvRBZNvPvki34O/dcTodvLSyOmK/MMBDrzN8Cnk302XfnGlW/YAQ csMWISKKSpStc6tmD+2Y0z9WjyRqFr3EGfH1RXSv9Z1vmfPzU42jsdZn667UxrRcVQXUgoKg QYx055Q2FdUeaZSaivoIBD9WtJq/66UPXRRr4H/+Y5FaUZx+gWNGmBT6a0S/GQnHb9g3nonD jmDKGw+YO4P6aEMxyy3k9PstaoiyBXnzQASzdOi39BgWQuZfIQjN0aW+Dm8kOAfT5i/yk59h VV6v3NLHBjHVw9kHli3jwvsizIX9X2W8tb1SefaVxqvqO1132AO8V9CbE1DcVT8fzICvGi42 FoV/k0QOGwq+LmLf0t04Q0csEl+h69ZcqeBSQcIMm/Ir+NorfCr6HjrB6lW7giBkQl6hhomn l1mtDP6MTdbyYzEiBFcwQD4terc7S/8ELRRybWQHQp7sxQM/Lnuhs77MgY/e6c5AVWnMKd/z MKm4ru7A8+8gdHeydrRQSWDaVbfy3Hup0Ia76J9FaolnjB8YLUOJPdhI2vbvNCQ2ipxw3Y3c KhVIpGYqwdvFIiz0Fej7wnJICIrpJs/+XLQHyqcmERn3s/iWwBpeogrx2Lf8AGezqnv9woq7 OSoWlwXDJiUdaqPEB/HmGfqoRRN20jx+OOvuaBMPAPb+aKJyle8zABEBAAGJAh8EGAECAAkF AliKBz4CGwwACgkQcb6CRuU/KFdacg/+M3V3Ti9JYZEiIyVhqs+yHb6NMI1R0kkAmzsGQ1jU zSQUz9AVMR6T7v2fIETTT/f5Oout0+Hi9cY8uLpk8CWno9V9eR/B7Ifs2pAA8lh2nW43FFwp IDiSuDbH6oTLmiGCB206IvSuaQCp1fed8U6yuqGFcnf0ZpJm/sILG2ECdFK9RYnMIaeqlNQm iZicBY2lmlYFBEaMXHoy+K7nbOuizPWdUKoKHq+tmZ3iA+qL5s6Qlm4trH28/fPpFuOmgP8P K+7LpYLNSl1oQUr+WlqilPAuLcCo5Vdl7M7VFLMq4xxY/dY99aZx0ZJQYFx0w/6UkbDdFLzN upT7NIN68lZRucImffiWyN7CjH23X3Tni8bS9ubo7OON68NbPz1YIaYaHmnVQCjDyDXkQoKC R82Vf9mf5slj0Vlpf+/Wpsv/TH8X32ajva37oEQTkWNMsDxyw3aPSps6MaMafcN7k60y2Wk/ TCiLsRHFfMHFY6/lq/c0ZdOsGjgpIK0G0z6et9YU6MaPuKwNY4kBdjPNBwHreucrQVUdqRRm RcxmGC6ohvpqVGfhT48ZPZKZEWM+tZky0mO7bhZYxMXyVjBn4EoNTsXy1et9Y1dU3HVJ8fod 5UqrNrzIQFbdeM0/JqSLrtlTcXKJ7cYFa9ZM2AP7UIN9n1UWxq+OPY9YMOewVfYtL8M= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 17:32:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8e5c7ee5-4507-66d2-6642-2e37ff11b897@mendix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-btrfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org On 23.01.19 г. 17:25 ч., Hans van Kranenburg wrote: > On 1/23/19 12:25 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 1:45 PM Dennis Katsonis wrote: >>> I think my previous e-mail did not go through. Basically, if it is >>> assumed that a btrfs-receive operation will result in a subvolume which >>> matches the source file for file, then this assumption or expectation >>> won't be met if one deletes files from the subvolume at the receiving >>> end which is going to be referred to as the parent. >>> >> >> This is oxymoron. btrfs send/receive apply to read-only subvolumes. >> You are not able to modify them. As soon as you remove read-only bit, >> you are fully responsible for consequences. >> >>> This can happen inadvertently, >> >> It cannot. You do not inadvertently make subvolume read-write. And if >> you do, you are expected to know what you are doing. >> >> That said, better if btrfs did not allow flipping read-only bit in the >> first place. > > +100 > > But then only disallow if the subvol has a value in the received_uuid > field, I'd say. > > And the tooling could display a nice error message, telling the user to > make a rw snapshot of the received subvol instead, which will have an > empty received_uuid field again. > > ERROR: subvolume is a received subvolume, which cannot be made read-write > ERROR: suggestion; make a read-write snapshot of it instead > > Setting something ro manually (e.g. to prevent accidental deletion of a > static set of data) is still also a use case. I had a patch which when the ro bit is flipped on a snapshot, then it's parent snapshot uuid etc is deleted. Because at that point it cannot be guaranteed that there is any relationship between paren<->snapshot. Ie: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/1520847020-8049-1-git-send-email-nborisov@suse.com/ has anyone tried it? > >>> or even through filesystem corruption >>> (which I experienced). >>> >> >> And if corruption happened after applying changes? End result in the >> same. Of course it would be perfect if btrfs could notice and warn >> you, I just do not see how it can realistically be implemented. >> > >