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From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: support large folio numa balancing
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 19:11:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f22001bb-e474-4ddb-8440-2668e6cec000@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qctf89m.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>



On 11/14/2023 9:12 AM, Huang, Ying wrote:
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> On 13.11.23 11:45, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>> Currently, the file pages already support large folio, and supporting for
>>> anonymous pages is also under discussion[1]. Moreover, the numa balancing
>>> code are converted to use a folio by previous thread[2], and the migrate_pages
>>> function also already supports the large folio migration.
>>> So now I did not see any reason to continue restricting NUMA
>>> balancing for
>>> large folio.
>>
>> I recall John wanted to look into that. CCing him.
>>
>> I'll note that the "head page mapcount" heuristic to detect sharers will
>> now strike on the PTE path and make us believe that a large folios is
>> exclusive, although it isn't.
> 
> Even 4k folio may be shared by multiple processes/threads.  So, numa
> balancing uses a multi-stage node selection algorithm (mostly
> implemented in should_numa_migrate_memory()) to identify shared folios.
> I think that the algorithm needs to be adjusted for PTE mapped large
> folio for shared folios.

Not sure I get you here. In should_numa_migrate_memory(), it will use 
last CPU id, last PID and group numa faults to determine if this page 
can be migrated to the target node. So for large folio, a precise folio 
sharers check can make the numa faults of a group more accurate, which 
is enough for should_numa_migrate_memory() to make a decision?

Could you provide a more detailed description of the algorithm you would 
like to change for large folio? Thanks.

> And, as a performance improvement patch, some performance data needs to

Do you have some benchmark recommendation? I know the the autonuma can 
not support large folio now.

> be provided.  And, the effect of shared folio detection needs to be
> tested too

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-14 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-13 10:45 [RFC PATCH] mm: support large folio numa balancing Baolin Wang
2023-11-13 10:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-13 12:10   ` Kefeng Wang
2023-11-13 13:01     ` Baolin Wang
2023-11-13 22:15       ` John Hubbard
2023-11-14 11:35         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-14 13:12           ` Kefeng Wang
2023-11-13 12:59   ` Baolin Wang
2023-11-13 14:49     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-14 10:53       ` Baolin Wang
2023-11-14  1:12   ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-14 11:11     ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2023-11-15  2:58       ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-17 10:07         ` Mel Gorman
2023-11-17 10:13           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-17 16:04             ` Mel Gorman
2023-11-20  8:01           ` Baolin Wang
2023-11-15 10:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-15 10:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-20  3:28     ` Baolin Wang

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