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From: Peter Milesson <miles@atmos.eu>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Xen-users <xen-users@lists.xen.org>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 4.7.0 graphics pass through problems (Win10, AMD Radeon)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 16:40:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f49c037e-1ec3-6bb7-b2e0-dc9dc521fd0a__47906.3684856102$1473867094$gmane$org@atmos.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a83a3077-1b4f-ae56-47eb-752c81419d7d@citrix.com>



On 2016-09-14 15:30, George Dunlap wrote:
> On 14/09/16 14:23, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 14/09/16 13:50, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 14.09.16 at 13:34, <george.dunlap@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>>   On 2016-09-09 09:51, Peter Milesson wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>>> I've been using Xen for 3 years, starting out with 4.2, and I've been
>>>>>> upgrading regularly, and installed 4.7.0 today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using Windows 10, 64-bit with PCI pass through in a VM with
>>>>>> PV-drivers, using a AMD Radeon HD6450 card (AMD graphics cards don't seem to
>>>>>> need graphics pass through)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Previously (up till Xen 4.6.3), the graphics output has displayed some
>>>>>> shorter lines, a bit like thin coarse snow, when watching videos. The
>>>>>> distortions stayed within the movie, and was tolerable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After upgrade to Xen 4.7.0, the video performance is seriously ugly. Just
>>>>>> for example, I open cnn.com and move the mouse pointer up and down over the
>>>>>> photos, which creates a bunch of flickering lines over the display. The same
>>>>>> with moving content in Youtube for example. Or opening a Cygwin terminal
>>>>>> window and scrolling through a file. Terrible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing else has changed, only the Xen version.
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Peter Milesson <miles@atmos.eu> wrote:
>>>>> Hi again,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been playing around a bit more.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems one of the problems is that I passed a couple of PCI-devices (USB
>>>>> controllers) to the VM, beside the graphics card.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I pass the USB-devices individually in the VM configuration file
>>>>> (usbdevice=['tablet','host:1.4','host:1:9','host:x.y']), the display
>>>>> problems seem to be more or less gone.
>>>> Jan / Andy,
>>>>
>>>> Can you think of anything that's changed between 4.6 and 4.7 that
>>>> would cause the performance problems he's describing when both a video
>>>> card and a usb controller are passed through, but not when only the
>>>> video card is passed through?
>>> Not really, no. Peter - are there any indications of problems in
>>> one or more of the logs (Xen, xl, qemu)? Did you try running a
>>> debug build of all Xen components?
>> Furthermore, does "Nothing else has changed, only the Xen version." mean
>> switching your distro packages between two versions of xen, or literally
>> only switching the hypervisor itself.
> I assume he's using "Xen" to mean the whole Xen system -- hypervisor +
> tools + qemu.
>
>> A substantial quantity of the complexity here is in qemu, rather than Xen.
> Rather than the hypervisor, you mean.
>
> Another thing worth asking, Peter: Have you tried running with
> qemu-traditional (by adding the line below to your config file) rather
> than qemu-upstream, to see if that makes a difference?
>
> device_model_version="qemu-xen-traditional"
>
> qemu-traditional almost ever changes, so if it worked better, then that
> would point the finger at changes in qemu (at which point we would have
> to bring in a different set of people to help diagnose it).
>
>   -George
Hi George,

I have always been using the default. I never had the need to set a 
specific device model. So it's qemu-upstream in my case.

Best regards,

Peter



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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-14 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <02b85238-cacb-a994-2402-d0aa4fc8d7b3@atmos.eu>
     [not found] ` <3d258ed8-4cb2-e6e0-76b7-81f06c835b53@atmos.eu>
2016-09-14 11:34   ` [Xen-users] Xen 4.7.0 graphics pass through problems (Win10, AMD Radeon) George Dunlap
2016-09-14 12:50     ` Jan Beulich
2016-09-14 13:23       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-09-14 13:30         ` George Dunlap
2016-09-14 14:40           ` Peter Milesson [this message]
2016-09-14 14:16         ` Peter Milesson
2016-09-14 14:04       ` Peter Milesson
     [not found]       ` <014bee96-61a0-4c45-c24c-f306712136f0@atmos.eu>
2016-09-14 14:17         ` George Dunlap
2016-09-14 14:48           ` Peter Milesson
2016-09-14 14:49         ` Jan Beulich
2016-09-14 15:29           ` Peter Milesson

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