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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Anthony Perard" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Wei Liu" <wl@xen.org>, "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/14] x86/shstk: Introduce Supervisor Shadow Stack support
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 19:36:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f6ec0a0e-c7d0-22b5-b633-458a7fe2375f@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3c3aea0-806f-4058-c1aa-cdc0f75007e2@suse.com>

On 29/05/2020 12:59, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 28.05.2020 20:10, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 28/05/2020 11:25, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 27.05.2020 21:18, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>> --- a/xen/arch/x86/Kconfig
>>>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/Kconfig
>>>> @@ -34,6 +34,10 @@ config ARCH_DEFCONFIG
>>>>  config INDIRECT_THUNK
>>>>  	def_bool $(cc-option,-mindirect-branch-register)
>>>>  
>>>> +config HAS_AS_CET
>>>> +	# binutils >= 2.29 and LLVM >= 7
>>>> +	def_bool $(as-instr,wrssq %rax$(comma)0;setssbsy;endbr64)
>>> So you put me in a really awkward position: I'd really like to see
>>> this series go in for 4.14, yet I've previously indicated I want the
>>> underlying concept to first be agreed upon, before any uses get
>>> introduced.
>> There are already users.  One of them is even in context.
> Hmm, indeed. I clearly didn't notice this aspect when reviewing
> Anthony's series.
>
>> I don't see that there is anything open for dispute in the first place. 
>> Being able to do exactly this was a one key driving factor to a newer
>> Kconfig, because it is superior mechanism to the ad-hoc mess we had
>> previously (not to mention, a vast detriment to build time).
> This "key driving factor" was presumably from your perspective.
> Could you point me to a discussion (and resulting decision) that
> this is an explicit goal of that work? I don't recall any, and
> hence I also don't recall having been given a chance in influence
> the direction, decision, and overall outcome.

It took up a large chunk of the build system design session in Chicago.

>
> In the interest of getting this series in for 4.14, and on the
> assumption that you're willing to have a discussion on the
> direction wrt storing tool chain capabilities in .config before
> any further uses get added (and with the potential need to undo
> the ones we have / gain here)
> Reviewed-by: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>

Thanks.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-29 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-27 19:18 [PATCH v2 00/14] x86: Support for CET Supervisor Shadow Stacks Andrew Cooper
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] x86/traps: Clean up printing in {do_reserved, fatal}_trap() Andrew Cooper
2020-05-28  9:45   ` [PATCH v2 01/14] x86/traps: Clean up printing in {do_reserved,fatal}_trap() Jan Beulich
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] x86/traps: Factor out extable_fixup() and make printing consistent Andrew Cooper
2020-05-28  9:50   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-28 17:26     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] x86/shstk: Introduce Supervisor Shadow Stack support Andrew Cooper
2020-05-28 10:25   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-28 18:10     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-29 11:59       ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-29 15:51         ` Anthony PERARD
2020-05-29 18:39           ` Andrew Cooper
2020-06-02 12:09             ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-29 18:36         ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2020-06-02 12:06           ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-02 12:26             ` Anthony PERARD
2020-06-02 12:41               ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-02 13:50                 ` Anthony PERARD
2020-06-02 14:13                   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] x86/traps: Implement #CP handler and extend #PF for shadow stacks Andrew Cooper
2020-05-28 12:03   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-28 13:22     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-28 13:31       ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-29 18:50         ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] x86/shstk: Re-layout the stack block " Andrew Cooper
2020-05-28 12:33   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-29 19:21     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] x86/shstk: Create " Andrew Cooper
2020-05-28 12:50   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-29 19:35     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-29 21:45       ` Andrew Cooper
2020-06-02 12:32         ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-02 12:35       ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] x86/cpu: Adjust enable_nmis() to be shadow stack compatible Andrew Cooper
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] x86/cpu: Adjust reset_stack_and_jump() " Andrew Cooper
2020-05-28 14:41   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] x86/spec-ctrl: Adjust DO_OVERWRITE_RSB " Andrew Cooper
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] x86/extable: Adjust extable handling " Andrew Cooper
2020-05-28 16:15   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-29 19:43     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-29 21:17       ` Andrew Cooper
2020-06-02 13:11         ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-02 12:57       ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] x86/alt: Adjust _alternative_instructions() to not create shadow stacks Andrew Cooper
2020-05-29 12:23   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-29 19:46     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] x86/entry: Adjust guest paths to be shadow stack compatible Andrew Cooper
2020-05-29 12:40   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-29 19:58     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] x86/S3: Save and restore Shadow Stack configuration Andrew Cooper
2020-05-29 12:52   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-29 20:00     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-27 19:18 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] x86/shstk: Activate Supervisor Shadow Stacks Andrew Cooper
2020-05-29 13:09   ` Jan Beulich
2020-05-29 20:28     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-29 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] x86: Support for CET " Andrew Cooper

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