From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 415F729CA for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:47:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1643204859; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=xq9qXfs6mYq/UfTYZlfXKoJk7bb8Idtqn7KKr27tJeY=; b=FE6fcjAihqYZesIu+7qcjGni9LJT5urEv1SJXREc+aAfmQKcRkNtEoyU1z2YOIjR7lQ65P y/3krOY/RW3bz0LUYQ1QQuSJewpCXsLywCOo065Rk7hiEWEelmw9SSdG6qiB3W7hoC7S/z WR/LS9s8faWHN6TYL695iGi4SD5qy0I= Received: from mail-wr1-f70.google.com (mail-wr1-f70.google.com [209.85.221.70]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-552-hBGMXM5jNQOcOxH1RWP-yQ-1; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:47:36 -0500 X-MC-Unique: hBGMXM5jNQOcOxH1RWP-yQ-1 Received: by mail-wr1-f70.google.com with SMTP id g8-20020adfa488000000b001d8e6467fe8so4320717wrb.6 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:47:35 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject :content-language:to:cc:references:from:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xq9qXfs6mYq/UfTYZlfXKoJk7bb8Idtqn7KKr27tJeY=; b=ygLPydLO7KPFSVyYv06WxVC8niECI/4JvzVFQ092TIsm/2vFEv314a161dDqXtwLRT qPYUC6hC1a/iPq31681pQSUr0Epdylp5QoDQXOYHwYMPk7+RR/gYuPZIeP0mX/xEH9ao XT/5ojhYTgSEPWNT43shNn9DavW3vnPrnFnHuYSBYZ7TZnOnG3bCdHyW5uknDnB+Bl4S lKmiYm8N37DXkQVQAnFx+yXzPkN1I9iMYEtff8GCFppcCBHfzcYLyduRxQkBJ1w4eAag UYU9rgAweCsGLzWsmuh95+Yg2ddNUsTGlPVskVncLV207oKXnMttDFlHNt+ZApy8PhUS ab5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532vyh9lZ2XpyRblxqzzivIact4eHc3iIYQP8BoQAGUpmv1zRiNB pLMgjO2FMYKto4e1oeYrHWlGLrF11myxi2D11laCFwzZLin5V1neHUiT3nTyB0ktwuZOhSHpSUs T/kl29R8qiDTXDu902Bmje5Ww7g== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:f404:: with SMTP id z4mr7537091wma.165.1643204854941; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:47:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxs81KYxiPF/pMoFmGo74Ky9xgWpfukUAN7+fK2cyeIPPH1/2P88Q/Z9OzeoSa7tZySgGcZpA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:f404:: with SMTP id z4mr7537069wma.165.1643204854684; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([92.176.231.205]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n2sm22869132wrw.63.2022.01.26.05.47.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:47:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:47:33 +0100 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-staging@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.4.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance To: Andy Shevchenko Cc: Helge Deller , Thomas Zimmermann , Andy Shevchenko , linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, Michael Hennerich , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Phillip Potter , Carlis , Lee Jones , Heiner Kallweit References: <20220125202118.63362-1-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> <991e988b-7225-881b-a59a-33c3eae044be@suse.de> <3877516e-3db3-f732-b44f-7fe12b175226@gmx.de> From: Javier Martinez Canillas In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=javierm@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 1/26/22 14:27, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:18:30PM +0100, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: >> On 1/26/22 11:59, Helge Deller wrote: >>> On 1/26/22 11:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>>> P.S. For the record, I will personally NAK any attempts to remove that >>>> driver from the kernel. And this is another point why it's better not >>>> to be under the staging. >>> >>> I agree. Same as for me to NAK the disabling of fbcon's acceleration >>> features or even attempting to remove fbdev altogether (unless all >>> relevant drivers are ported to DRM). >>> >> >> But that will never happen if we keep moving the goal post. >> >> At some point new fbdev drivers should not be added anymore, otherwise >> the number of existing drivers that need conversion will keep growing. > > This thread is not about adding a new driver. > It was about adding a new drivers to drivers/video/ (taken from staging). Best regards, -- Javier Martinez Canillas Linux Engineering Red Hat From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (gabe.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D67AC3526D for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F34410E67D; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F8C910E67D for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:47:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1643204857; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=xq9qXfs6mYq/UfTYZlfXKoJk7bb8Idtqn7KKr27tJeY=; b=bONizZyyC0bqldXQ+kQWfVadWSdBtWVCsGeCwthShSsmCqf8yDxPQwrnUdKRhSpRp7IwED SZhUzDu7E8ved0F/j6YK1Ec4ljsEAxhc/qiFroHjkTmKzJg6kvvToaZRBsIH4Kca2VXfnm dN4pmZqTgF798E9FCndcEbn+kXclC/g= Received: from mail-wr1-f72.google.com (mail-wr1-f72.google.com [209.85.221.72]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-552-r_3QPJS9M72946bsh2p4UQ-1; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:47:36 -0500 X-MC-Unique: r_3QPJS9M72946bsh2p4UQ-1 Received: by mail-wr1-f72.google.com with SMTP id i16-20020adfa510000000b001d7f57750a6so4306256wrb.0 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:47:35 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject :content-language:to:cc:references:from:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xq9qXfs6mYq/UfTYZlfXKoJk7bb8Idtqn7KKr27tJeY=; b=U9jqJhKBb6t6PGVmBeSQ+2PcGFKBKFNWfzgbvsRNuzFB2BXzZl49vMv3+AkFALsO6H Km3XjMxj/tjXbj3AySCJRvWXthNvQKaA3c7AGx7M7vhiVBpQS/7H1sGMl8IIeK8HzXWV NNHhLSmBmY+yV8HKQmdZw2SSP0kCKmbIOvsr5JUdT3qXiHWFxIQa2ozB5no56AEmX8eD tzGsw+1VtgDv7vVLJhOYlxHyk6VC7NSDNOATfqIbtxFJHQBiqXQoLgUDTg5bVTI8o4t4 DMo6h3hTVqJ+UyAf+QvfsPKyR7bA3+kVWHDnjE2WeWfB/kaATEfxnRQtTgUkI72MlLZb gkSw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532ZRQIZ8KXq/Whn8qeCM8pEQLOxNy1TWzZoX+Ul5PjY6q7OTzCY OisVqYyS7FYLVtqMBikIwob6knLhYOCGewBe0bqZgXP8TciNTct2dm++wpWw6UhczTRThwiPexH ekoVjixYKRE/yqD5clyNOJFb99KNr X-Received: by 2002:a1c:f404:: with SMTP id z4mr7537092wma.165.1643204854941; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:47:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxs81KYxiPF/pMoFmGo74Ky9xgWpfukUAN7+fK2cyeIPPH1/2P88Q/Z9OzeoSa7tZySgGcZpA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:f404:: with SMTP id z4mr7537069wma.165.1643204854684; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([92.176.231.205]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n2sm22869132wrw.63.2022.01.26.05.47.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:47:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:47:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.4.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance To: Andy Shevchenko References: <20220125202118.63362-1-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> <991e988b-7225-881b-a59a-33c3eae044be@suse.de> <3877516e-3db3-f732-b44f-7fe12b175226@gmx.de> From: Javier Martinez Canillas In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=javierm@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Direct Rendering Infrastructure - Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Andy Shevchenko , linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, Michael Hennerich , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Helge Deller , linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Phillip Potter , Thomas Zimmermann , Carlis , Lee Jones , Heiner Kallweit Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" On 1/26/22 14:27, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:18:30PM +0100, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: >> On 1/26/22 11:59, Helge Deller wrote: >>> On 1/26/22 11:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>>> P.S. For the record, I will personally NAK any attempts to remove that >>>> driver from the kernel. And this is another point why it's better not >>>> to be under the staging. >>> >>> I agree. Same as for me to NAK the disabling of fbcon's acceleration >>> features or even attempting to remove fbdev altogether (unless all >>> relevant drivers are ported to DRM). >>> >> >> But that will never happen if we keep moving the goal post. >> >> At some point new fbdev drivers should not be added anymore, otherwise >> the number of existing drivers that need conversion will keep growing. > > This thread is not about adding a new driver. > It was about adding a new drivers to drivers/video/ (taken from staging). Best regards, -- Javier Martinez Canillas Linux Engineering Red Hat