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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Wei Liu" <wl@xen.org>, "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com>,
	"George Dunlap" <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	"Ian Jackson" <iwj@xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/13] libxenguest: deal with log-dirty op stats overflow
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 08:39:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f70be58d-99f0-0631-2b01-436e3e94e5ee@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210705192612.5cf50887.olaf@aepfle.de>

On 05.07.2021 19:26, Olaf Hering wrote:
> Am Mon, 5 Jul 2021 17:13:28 +0200
> schrieb Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>:
> 
>>      ctx->save.stats = (struct precopy_stats){
>> -        .dirty_count = ctx->save.p2m_size,
>> +        .dirty_count = -1,
>>      };
> 
> As said earlier, a consumer of these data may now be unable to initialize itself properly. Without the patch it would be able to size its private data structures properly to p2m_size. With the patch it can not know in advance what the upper limit might be.

And as said before, besides the intention of this being usable for
sizing purposes not being spelled out anywhere (instead it is
explicitly documented that -1 means "unknown", and the value really
_is_ unknown at this point; p2m_size is only a wrongly assumed
upper bound), this is useless information as the size may change in
the course of migration. It is a present limitation that this isn't
handled properly, which I think would better not be baked into
further places.

> There is no in-tree consumer that is affected, and I do not have an out-of-tree consumer that might be broken by this change.
> 
> Just saying..

Sure, but (as is the case for Andrew's replies) if you want me to
change the patch, you need to not just "say" something, but provide
convincing arguments. So far I've provided counter arguments which
weren't proven wrong or at least inapplicable.

Jan



  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-06  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-05 15:09 [PATCH v2 00/13] x86: more or less log-dirty related improvements Jan Beulich
2021-07-05 15:11 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] libxl/x86: check return value of SHADOW_OP_SET_ALLOCATION domctl Jan Beulich
2021-07-16 13:03   ` Anthony PERARD
2021-07-05 15:12 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] libxc: split xc_logdirty_control() from xc_shadow_control() Jan Beulich
2021-08-19  9:11   ` Juergen Gross
2021-08-19  9:24     ` Jan Beulich
2021-08-19  9:50       ` Juergen Gross
2021-09-02 17:04         ` [PATCH v2 02/13] libxc: split xc_logdirty_control() from xc_shadow_control() [and 1 more messages] Ian Jackson
2021-07-05 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] libxenguest: deal with log-dirty op stats overflow Jan Beulich
2021-07-05 15:41   ` Andrew Cooper
2021-07-05 15:53     ` Jan Beulich
2021-07-05 17:26   ` Olaf Hering
2021-07-06  6:39     ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2021-07-06  6:46       ` Olaf Hering
2021-07-06  6:58         ` Jan Beulich
2021-07-06  7:15           ` Olaf Hering
2021-08-19 10:20   ` Juergen Gross
2021-08-19 11:06     ` Jan Beulich
2021-08-19 11:25       ` Juergen Gross
2021-08-19 11:51         ` Jan Beulich
2021-08-19 11:53           ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-02 16:57             ` Ian Jackson
2021-08-19 14:29           ` Juergen Gross
2021-07-05 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] libxenguest: short-circuit "all-dirty" handling Jan Beulich
2021-08-19 14:21   ` Juergen Gross
2021-07-05 15:14 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] libxenguest: avoid allocating unused deferred-pages bitmap Jan Beulich
2021-08-19 14:22   ` Juergen Gross
2021-07-05 15:14 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] libxenguest: complete loops in xc_map_domain_meminfo() Jan Beulich
2021-07-05 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] libxenguest: guard against overflow from too large p2m when checkpointing Jan Beulich
2021-07-05 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] libxenguest: fix off-by-1 in colo-secondary-bitmap merging Jan Beulich
2021-07-05 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] libxenguest: restrict PV guest size Jan Beulich
2021-07-05 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] libxc: simplify HYPERCALL_BUFFER() Jan Beulich
2021-07-05 15:47   ` Andrew Cooper
2021-07-05 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] x86/paging: supply more useful log-dirty page count Jan Beulich
2021-07-05 15:18 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] x86/mm: update log-dirty bitmap when manipulating P2M Jan Beulich
2021-07-05 15:18 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] SUPPORT.md: write down restriction of 32-bit tool stacks Jan Beulich
2021-07-14 18:16   ` Julien Grall
2021-07-15  6:38     ` Jan Beulich
2021-07-15  9:05       ` Julien Grall
2021-07-15 11:36         ` Jan Beulich
2021-07-16  7:50           ` Julien Grall
2021-07-19  7:46 ` Ping: [PATCH v2 00/13] x86: more or less log-dirty related improvements Jan Beulich
2021-08-13  9:24   ` Jan Beulich
2021-08-20  7:20   ` Jan Beulich

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