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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, Qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Unaligned images with O_DIRECT
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 16:36:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f9865b64-0882-6e29-e80a-6cbb5998d181@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20a7f01f-894c-e121-afc9-03415f55aa82@redhat.com>

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On 5/14/19 12:28 PM, Max Reitz wrote:

>>>
>>> The tail of an unaligned file is generally inaccessible to O_DIRECT,
>>
>> Especially with this.
>>
>>> where it is easier to use ftruncate() up to an aligned boundary if you
>>> really must play with that region of the file, and then ftruncate() back
>>> to the intended size after I/O. But that sounds hairy.  We could also
>>> round down and silently ignore the tail of the file, but that is at odds
>>> with our practice of rounding size up.  So for the short term, I'd be
>>> happy with a patch that just rejects any attempt to use cache.direct=on
>>> (O_DIRECT) with a file that is not already a multiple of the alignment
>>> required thereby. (For reference, that's what qemu as NBD client
>>> recently did when talking to a server that advertises a size
>>> inconsistent with forced minimum block access: commit 3add3ab7)
>>
>> OK, I’ll send a patch.  Thanks for you explanation!
> Well, or maybe not.
> 
> $ ./qemu-img create -f qcow2 foo.qcow2 64M
> $ ./qemu-img map --image-opts \
>     driver=qcow2,file.filename=foo.qcow2,cache.direct=on
> qemu-img: Could not open
> 'driver=qcow2,file.filename=foo.qcow2,cache.direct=on': File length
> (196616 bytes) is not a multiple of the O_DIRECT alignment (512 bytes)
> Try cache.direct=off, or increasing the file size to match the alignment
> 
> That may be considered a bug in qcow2.  Maybe it should always fill all
> clusters.  But even if we did so and fixed it now, we can’t disallow
> qemu from opening such images.
> 
> Also, well, the tail is accessible, we just need to access it with the
> proper alignment (and then we get a short read).  This seems to be
> handled just fine.

Oh. Yeah, short reads with O_DIRECT are possible (short writes not so
much; for those, you have to write a full buffer then ftruncate back
down). But we DO want to support short reads because of pre-existing
images, whether or not we also improve qcow2 to always create aligned
image sizes. The qcow2 spec allows unaligned images, even if we quit
creating new ones.

> 
> So I think file-posix should just return a rounded result.  Well, or
> bdrv_co_Block_status() could ignore it for the EOF, because it throws
> away everything past the EOF anyway with:
> 
>     if (*pnum > bytes) {
>         *pnum = bytes;
>     }
> 
> On one hand, I agree that file-posix should return an aligned result.
> On the other, it doesn’t make a difference, so I don’t think we need to
> enforce it (at EOF).

My thoughts:

Right now, only io.c sets (or even reads) BDRV_BLOCK_EOF, and it is
documented as an internal flag for optimizations.  But it would be very
easy to amend the contract of driver's .bdrv_co_block_status to state
that a driver may set BDRV_BLOCK_EOF at the end of a file, and MUST set
that flag if the end of the file also happens to be unaligned with
respect to the driver's request_alignment. (Most drivers won't need to
care, but file-posix.c under O_DIRECT would have to start caring).  Then
fix io.c to relax the assertion - the result must either be aligned
(current condition) OR the driver must have reported BDRV_BLOCK_EOF (new
condition). At that point, the block layer can take care of rounding out
the block status for the unaligned tail beyond EOF up to the alignment
boundary (similar to the rounding I have proposed in my other patches).
If you don't get to that first, then it looks like I'll have to fold
that in to my v2 patches when I get back to addressing those block
status alignment problems.

Thanks again for testing, and forcing me to think about the issue.

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3226
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org


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      reply	other threads:[~2019-05-14 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-14 15:06 [Qemu-devel] Unaligned images with O_DIRECT Max Reitz
2019-05-14 15:45 ` Eric Blake
2019-05-14 16:15   ` Max Reitz
2019-05-14 17:28     ` Max Reitz
2019-05-14 21:36       ` Eric Blake [this message]

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