Re: openBMC pwm-fan control policy

[Andrei Kartashev <a.kartashev@yadro.com>]

Sorry, I probably miss your question.

I still don't understand, what kind of help do you need, but I will try
to explain the idea:
PID-control daemon use concept of the PID systems, where you have
inputs (sensors) and outputs (FANs). To configure PIDs in pid-control
the zone concept is used: thermal zone can have several fans and
several sensors. 
Then you should select PID-loop type and set parameters for each sensor
and FAN. For normal temperature sensor you generally will use normal
PID-loop, were you setup PID coefficients and setpoint (target
temperature). When the value of one (or more) sensor exceed setpoint
PID-control will increase the speed of the fans in the zone trying to
keep temperatures below the setpoints.
For current sensors you probably should use stepwise mode, but I'm not
familiar here.

On Tue, 2021-12-07 at 15:37 +0800, Landon wrote:
>   
>   
> On 12/7/2021 09:45，Landon<cld795@163.com> wrote： 
> > 
> >  Hello,
> > Can you take a look at it, please?
> >  
> > Thanks!
> > On 12/2/2021 17:11，Landon<cld795@163.com> wrote： 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I read the
> > >  "https://github.com/openbmc/phosphor-pid-control/blob/master/configure.md"：
> > > 
> > > How to Configure Phosphor-pid-control
> > > 
> > > type == "temp"
> > > 
> > > Exactly the same as margin but all the inputs are supposed to be
> > > absolute temperatures and so the maximal value is used to feed
> > > the PID loop.
> > > type == "stepwise"
> > > 
> > > "name": "temp1",
> > > "type": "stepwise",
> > > "inputs": ["temp1"],
> > > "setpoint": 30.0,
> > > "pid": {
> > >   "samplePeriod": 0.1,
> > >   "positiveHysteresis": 1.0,
> > >   "negativeHysteresis": 1.0,
> > >   "isCeiling": false,
> > >   "reading": {
> > >     "0": 45,
> > >     "1": 46,
> > >     "2": 47,
> > >   },
> > >   "output": {
> > >     "0": 5000,
> > >     "1": 2400,
> > >     "2": 2600,
> > >   }
> > > }
> > > and
> > >  in  "https://github.com/openbmc/entity-manager/blob/master/configurations/R1000%20Chassis.json
> > > "
> > > {
> > >             "Class": "temp",            "FFGainCoefficient": 0.0,
> > > "FFOffCoefficient": 0.0,            "ICoefficient": -4.64,      
> > > "ILimitMax": 100,            "ILimitMin": 30,           
> > > "Inputs": [                "Exit Air Temp"            ],        
> > > "Name": "Exit Air Temp",            "NegativeHysteresis": 5.0,  
> > > "OutLimitMax": 100,            "OutLimitMin": 30,           
> > > "Outputs": [],            "PCoefficient": -0.15,           
> > > "PositiveHysteresis": 0.0,            "SetPoint": 75.0,         
> > > "SlewNeg": -1,            "SlewPos": 0.0,            "Type":
> > > "Pid",            "Zones": [                "Zone 1",           
> > > "Zone 2",                "Zone 3",                "Zone 4",     
> > > "Zone 5",                "Zone 6"            ]        },
> > >  but  I don't understand how to control the fan by temperature ?
> > > I was wondering if you could help me explain ?
> > > Thank you very much !
> > > On 11/29/2021 18:22，Andrei Kartashev<a.kartashev@yadro.com>
> > > wrote： 
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > Please read phosphor-pid-control documentation:
> > > > https://github.com/openbmc/phosphor-pid-control
> > > > https://github.com/openbmc/phosphor-pid-
> > > > control/blob/master/configure.md
> > > > https://github.com/openbmc/phosphor-pid-
> > > > control/blob/master/tuning.md
> > > > https://github.com/openbmc/phosphor-pid-
> > > > control/tree/master/examples
> > > > 
> > > > Keep in mind that there are two different ways to configure
> > > > phosphor-
> > > > pid-control: statically with JSON config files and dynamically
> > > > with
> > > > DBUS (generally, using EntityManager JSON configuration) and
> > > > same
> > > > parameters with this two ways mostly have different names.
> > > > The way you want to use is generally depend on either you use
> > > > EM
> > > > for
> > > > your platform or not.
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 17:43 +0800, Landon wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > >  Thank you!  
> > > > >  I have read it
> > > > >  :  https://github.com/openbmc/entity-
> > > > > manager/blob/master/configurations/R1000%20Chassis.json
> > > > >  But I don't understand,
> > > > >  Is there an explanation for this part?
> > > > >  Are there general instructions on how to control fan output
> > > > > by
> > > > >  temperature?
> > > > >  
> > > > >  and how to use phosphor-pid-control  to set this ?
> > > > >   
> > > > >  Is there“ phosphor-pid-control ”the instructions for this
> > > > > part?
> > > > >  Thank you very much !
> > > > >  On 11/27/2021 05:57，Paul Fertser<fercerpav@gmail.com> wrote：
> > > > >  
> > > > > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 01:55:31PM +0800, Landon wrote:
> > > > > >   
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > add: I just want to know in  OpenBMC by reading different
> > > > > > >  temperature values  or
> > > > > > >   current values to  control the fan  output, so as  to
> > > > > > > cool down,
> > > > > > >   how does  this
> > > > > > >   strategy work? An example of this.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  This is using temperature values to control the fans so as
> > > > > > to cool
> > > > > >  down, it works by configuring phosphor-pid-control
> > > > > > appropriately, I
> > > > > >  hope it's enough of an example:
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  https://github.com/openbmc/entity-
> > > > > >  manager/blob/master/configurations/R1000%20Chassis.json
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  If you think phosphor-pid-control is missing some
> > > > > > documentation
> > > > > >  please
> > > > > >  read its source code and send documentation patches for
> > > > > > review.
> > > > > >  
> > > > 

-- 
Best regards,
Andrei Kartashev