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From: Egil Hjelmeland <privat@egil-hjelmeland.no>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	Maxim Uvarov <muvarov@gmail.com>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel@savoirfairelinux.com,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>,
	Woojung Huh <Woojung.Huh@microchip.com>,
	Sean Wang <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com>,
	Chris Healy <cphealy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 01/10] net: dsa: add debugfs interface
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 09:35:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb6991eb-573e-a085-9267-928c47dbdb05@egil-hjelmeland.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170915055107.GA1927@nanopsycho.orion>

On 15. sep. 2017 07:51, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:01:32PM CEST, andrew@lunn.ch wrote:
>>> Can you clarify what type of registers it is you are wanting to read?
>>> We already have ethtool which is meant to allow reading the device
>>> registers for a given netdev. As long as the port has a netdev
>>> associated it then there is no need to be getting into debugfs since
>>> we should probably just be using ethtool.
>>
>> Not all ports of a DSA switch have a netdev. This is by design. The
>> presentation we gave to Netdev 2.1 gives some of the background.
>>
>> Plus a switch has a lot of registers not associated to port. Often a
>> switch has more global registers than port registers.
>>
>>> Also as Jiri pointed out there is already devlink which would probably
>>> be a better way to get the associated information for those pieces
>>> that don't have a netdev associated with them.
>>
>> We have looked at the devlink a few times. The current dpipe code is
>> not generic enough. It makes assumptions about the architecture of the
>> switch, that it is all match/action based. The niche of top of rack
>> switches might be like that, but average switches are not.
>>
>> If dpipe was to support simple generic two dimensional tables, we
>> probably would use it.
>>
>> David suggested making a class device for DSA. It is not ideal, but we
>> are probably going to go that way.
> 
> I believe that is also big mistake.
> 
> Could you put together your requirements so we can work it out to extend
> devlink to support them?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

$ ack -i devlink Documentation/
$ ack -i dpipe Documentation/
$

How you expect new mechanisms to be taken into use with zero documentation?

To all: Why does reviewers nitpick about undocumented formatting rules, 
but not ask about documentation?

Egil

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-15  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-28 19:17 [PATCH net-next v2 00/10] net: dsa: add generic debugfs interface Vivien Didelot
2017-08-28 19:17 ` [PATCH net-next v2 01/10] net: dsa: add " Vivien Didelot
2017-08-28 19:50   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-28 19:58     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-28 20:05       ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-28 20:19   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-09-07 19:34   ` Greg KH
2017-09-08 13:58     ` Vivien Didelot
2017-09-14 19:59       ` Maxim Uvarov
2017-09-14 20:12         ` Alexander Duyck
2017-09-14 21:01           ` Andrew Lunn
2017-09-15  5:51             ` Jiri Pirko
2017-09-15  7:35               ` Egil Hjelmeland [this message]
2017-09-15 14:08               ` Andrew Lunn
2017-09-15 14:26                 ` Jiri Pirko
2017-09-15 15:19                   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-28 19:17 ` [PATCH net-next v2 02/10] net: dsa: debugfs: add tree Vivien Didelot
2017-09-08 14:18   ` Vivien Didelot
2017-09-08 14:40     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-09-08 14:57   ` Vivien Didelot
2017-09-08 15:03     ` David Laight
2017-09-08 15:29     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-08-28 19:17 ` [PATCH net-next v2 03/10] net: dsa: debugfs: add tag_protocol Vivien Didelot
2017-08-28 20:16   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-28 19:17 ` [PATCH net-next v2 04/10] net: dsa: debugfs: add port stats Vivien Didelot
2017-08-28 19:17 ` [PATCH net-next v2 05/10] net: dsa: debugfs: add port regs Vivien Didelot
2017-08-28 19:17 ` [PATCH net-next v2 06/10] net: dsa: debugfs: add port fdb Vivien Didelot
2017-08-28 19:17 ` [PATCH net-next v2 07/10] net: dsa: restore mdb dump Vivien Didelot
2017-08-28 19:17 ` [PATCH net-next v2 08/10] net: dsa: debugfs: add port mdb Vivien Didelot
2017-08-28 19:17 ` [PATCH net-next v2 09/10] net: dsa: restore VLAN dump Vivien Didelot
2017-08-28 19:17 ` [PATCH net-next v2 10/10] net: dsa: debugfs: add port vlan Vivien Didelot
2017-08-28 19:53 ` [PATCH net-next v2 00/10] net: dsa: add generic debugfs interface Jiri Pirko
2017-08-28 20:08   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-29  6:25     ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-29 12:50       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-29 19:05         ` Arkadi Sharshevsky
2017-08-29 19:19           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-29 20:27             ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-30  7:43         ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-29  4:38 ` David Miller
2017-08-29  6:29   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-29 15:57     ` Vivien Didelot
2017-08-30  7:40       ` Jiri Pirko

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