From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74299C43461 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 07:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266D220795 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 07:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726935AbgIJHjC (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Sep 2020 03:39:02 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.75]:45331 "EHLO mout.kundenserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726746AbgIJHiy (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Sep 2020 03:38:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.100.1] ([82.252.148.206]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [213.165.67.119]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MuDTn-1kWIPW1PIL-00uXuW; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 09:38:35 +0200 To: =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=c3=a9?= , qemu-devel@nongnu.org Cc: Laurent Vivier , Peter Maydell , Thomas Huth , Alistair Francis , Eduardo Habkost , kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. 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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200910070131.435543-1-philmd@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3XPYXZnEL9oBPvi6dynCc9QtpVdL2UdAuLgu56r8dUYGYYgIE/w TDtIb9kjbb+hq2fYweKecxQ6MfdStqf36I8WOi4WEaIkplEst799DqjCnUw7niZOYAZgzvj NrkFUMBVwdyQUDwlg0L6VFQ5ogU0uRayMkhaMsUoIoEqO9V1R325jTPUMnP+ZRsGboLaQyY CfWleSDitg5zEMMTV0GUQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:q+hO28sWeus=:Im/mAeAzGp3eHnfvBbfJYu UHOGR6hRqEn+c5SfTGsvsF1RYgm7eSzvAKvHBHDaWAXHxKinfVZQMhuinKK3jlDY8ApZR2RqY Qcceuylgu2LzSydkVDncHS0tzt3yh5/XYgqmGD4BhC0K5csjd23tECAjia03fKKkY2zOQ/oPv Pmv2iKTN/LA0gFpWpY4kmsUUICV7mhBjIhU6DDghaMh5OAr13MWvAGhZxraVYycwLW6rVdNqX DU10dwLWmNTk4t1xL87gVoO7nJf889QVtQk31dQDWP0phWQ1BKQmBppN573ccrVjVQfP7e/Eq 0FbTGJTxtcIHkEk4ZDgfqKZgBDax82jge21GY1Lcp9+Fbz9TPZGnXNQUPM+npxHNYwFkW3s1M ernksuYMhk9GG638VldG8MQ5q+UcMs8MRL9SCJkLAiECmVoBob5q7R08wykPyf3IJ55Boj7gS j6jLZwgclCJm+oyJCsba1RrGHmujJgajSKE09cOHT+B+uUlzuPFPvRqwd9dH8jq0d7HXoOSZz 5WOqcWuT2sg2l3uMeJiT9gcxtDXwEkbdtQ04U9FFtDxHhUPV44/LMcpQH7aVu1SqTP267kTbq pBbDErgrnNo/eUgnd911qgt/XWTpy7mcQejHnTX33sv/jEq+6El/CH4rPWQv9iXyiUNgLJmeW W6x/4sTxmVf2ghWzViQ+QnY0AtXJUnAuInzvaSyHYEz9TNF55GrVyMseN1knFSwpoehaFsfIR JcxP1iLQFfsLSotnzlLKPOr3FAyhsnEVJo0tO45Jf04b2h+3f86QYnv4qT5ALgLmDug24vhSJ 4Fy1l78ZUbcVcjMuGLBAkUCM8rrUYDu3ZLJwpHbmyN9Aep9S95VZaFBdivqdk9AK1GDn0tM Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: kvm@vger.kernel.org Le 10/09/2020 à 09:01, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé a écrit : > We don't have (yet?) inclusive terminology guidelines, > but the PCI hole memory is not "black", the DMA sources > don't stream to "slaves", and there isn't really a TSX > "black" list, we only check for broken fields. > > As this terms can be considered offensive, and changing > them is a no-brain operation, simply do it. > These changes are technically trivial but they are not from an ethical point of view. I will add to the trivial branch only if they are acked by their own maintainers. Moreover, I think we should have a project level guideline before doing that to be sure everyone agrees. 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envelope-from=laurent@vivier.eu; helo=mout.kundenserver.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/10 03:38:47 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -54 X-Spam_score: -5.5 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-3.576, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Laurent Vivier , Peter Maydell , Thomas Huth , Marcelo Tosatti , Eduardo Habkost , kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" , Andrew Jeffery , Jason Wang , Alistair Francis , qemu-trivial@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org, Joel Stanley , "Edgar E. Iglesias" , Paolo Bonzini , Richard Henderson , =?UTF-8?Q?Alex_Benn=c3=a9e?= , =?UTF-8?Q?C=c3=a9dric_Le_Goater?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" Le 10/09/2020 à 09:01, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé a écrit : > We don't have (yet?) inclusive terminology guidelines, > but the PCI hole memory is not "black", the DMA sources > don't stream to "slaves", and there isn't really a TSX > "black" list, we only check for broken fields. > > As this terms can be considered offensive, and changing > them is a no-brain operation, simply do it. > These changes are technically trivial but they are not from an ethical point of view. I will add to the trivial branch only if they are acked by their own maintainers. Moreover, I think we should have a project level guideline before doing that to be sure everyone agrees. Thanks, Laurent