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From: "Konstantin V. Gavrilenko" <k.gavrilenko@arhont.com>
To: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
Cc: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] HELP, luksFormat over existing container
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:59:02 -0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe3f9d50-c1c7-4cd4-95e3-21e0399d7905@dynomob> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120107124816.GC22097@tansi.org>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Wagner" <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Sent: Saturday, 7 January, 2012 12:48:16 PM
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] HELP, luksFormat over existing container

On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 10:57:08AM -0000, Konstantin V. Gavrilenko wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I have a problem :(
> 
> by mistake, instead of luksOpen I executed lukFormat on the loop device
> with associated cryptofile.  even though the key is was the same, I have
> no backup of original luksHeader, so I assume i have no way of recovering
> the SALT.  

And the master key is different in addition, at least in the first
key-slot that also has been overwritten.

KVG: I see, so the cryptsetup generates a different master key at each luksFormat eventhough the original key is the same, no hope for me then  :(((

> I am pretty much in Acceptance that it is not possible to
> recover anything, but would like to get an external confirmation, advice.

You are correct. Next step is to fix your set-up by adding
backup, see the FAQ.  
 
KVG:((( i had some files that were not backed up.

> p.s. surprised and disappointing that cryptsetup does not issue a warning
> when running luksFormat over luks preformatted container :(

It gives you a very clear warning and asks for an uppercase "YES"
and asks for the passphrease two times. That _should_ be enough. 
There is only so much a tool can do to protect you. The UNIX way is
to warn you, but to assume you want to do what you specified if
you ignore the warning. 


KVG: No it did not give the warning. I guess it depends on how the cryptsetup is used.
In my case, I have a gpg protected key, that I pipe to cryptsetup once it is decrypted.
Here is an example, two luksFormats in a row and no warning that luks header exists.


root@dmob:/# gpg --decrypt /tmp/keyfile.gpg | cryptsetup -v --cipher serpent-cbc-essiv:sha256 --key-size 256 luksFormat /dev/loop0
gpg: CAST5 encrypted data
gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session
gpg: encrypted with 1 passphrase
gpg: WARNING: message was not integrity protected
Command successful.
root@dmob:/# gpg --decrypt /tmp/keyfile.gpg | cryptsetup -v --cipher serpent-cbc-essiv:sha256 --key-size 256 luksFormat /dev/loop0
gpg: CAST5 encrypted data
gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session
gpg: encrypted with 1 passphrase
gpg: WARNING: message was not integrity protected
Command successful.






There are a number of ways to kill the header that give a lot less 
warning. Or none at all. Also the FAQ warns very, very clearly that 
you _need_ a backup and should have a header backup. The backup
is the second line of defense and one of its major tasks is to
protect against user errors.

See it this way: Most people do not bother with backup until
they lose something important. The earlier you make that 
experience, the better.


KVG: vielen Dank, noted :)


Arno
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-08  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <37321234-b10d-4d2c-b47c-e2c25c1a2733@dynomob>
2012-01-07 10:57 ` [dm-crypt] HELP, luksFormat over existing container Konstantin V. Gavrilenko
2012-01-07 12:48   ` Arno Wagner
2012-01-08  9:59     ` Konstantin V. Gavrilenko [this message]
2012-01-08 11:40       ` Arno Wagner
2012-01-08 13:23         ` Konstantin V. Gavrilenko
2012-01-08 17:18           ` Arno Wagner

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