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[109.43.176.32]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id cp6-20020a05622a420600b003b9bc00c2f1sm3088287qtb.94.2023.02.17.05.46.55 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Feb 2023 05:46:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:46:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.13.0 Content-Language: en-US To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2e_Berrang=c3=a9?= , John Snow Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Maydell , Cleber Rosa , =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=c3=a9?= , Beraldo Leal , Michael Roth , Wainer dos Santos Moschetta , Markus Armbruster , Paolo Bonzini , qemu-block@nongnu.org, Hanna Reitz , =?UTF-8?Q?Alex_Benn=c3=a9e?= , Kevin Wolf References: <20230210003147.1309376-1-jsnow@redhat.com> From: Thomas Huth Subject: Re: Proposed way forward Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] Python: Drop support for Python 3.6 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.129.124; envelope-from=thuth@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.256, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On 17/02/2023 12.37, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: ... > The long life enterprise distros are the pain point in unlocking the > new of python features. So the proposal is that, at a minimum, we > augment the current policy with words to the effect that: > > * For long life cycle distributions, QEMU will follow normal > policy for platform level dependancies / native code. For > Python modules, QEMU may choose to require a newer versions > than are available from the distribution package manager. Sounds reasonable to me. But I think we still should also add a sentence where we limit the total amount of time that we promise to support a long-term distro. Otherwise we'll also get problems with other way too backlevel native code dependencies at one point in time. I just sent a patch for discussion, shortly before I noticed your mail here. Feel free to grab the ideas from there into your patch (if you're planning to send one), or let me know if I should try to include the Python-related sentences in mine. Thomas