John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> writes:

> On 8/30/22 18:37, Robbie Harwood wrote:
>
>> As the person currently responsible for the Red Hat tree: I am also
>> not happy about this state of affairs.
>
> I don't want to sound rude, but GRUB isn't a RedHat-only project, it's a
> community project.

Nowhere in my post did I say I was speaking for grub - the tag at the
top literally says that my post is intended as the Red Hat tree
maintainer.

I'm not an upstream maintainer and it is not reasonable to presume that
I speak for grub, or that my views represent those of the project.

> So, while I understand RH's point of view, I would also like to ask
> you to see other people's perspectives.

If you're going to make claims like this, you need to actually engage
with what others are saying.  Seeing someone else's perspective doesn't
mean you think they're right: it means you're trying to engage with
their viewpoint in order to reach consensus.  I do not see engagement
with my viewpoint from you, and meanwhile I'm trying to engage with
yours.

>> If a use case is to be supported, someone needs to actually do the
>> leg work to support it.  Bug reports are all well and good, but if no
>> one's actually able to fix them, they're just making a pile that's in
>> the way.
>
> Vladimir has asked multiple times for bug reports on the issues and he
> said, he would fix them. I also offered that we do a crowd-funding
> campaign to fund the development. I would be happy to throw in some
> money as well.

That's nice of you to offer, but you should know that those of us
already employed full-time in software will likely be unable to receive
those funds.  It is also not the same thing as having that work get
done.  For my part, I reviewed the original POWER patch and am happy to
review changes to make it powermac compatible.

> So, if we could get some report on what needs to be addressed, that would
> be great.

I think I was pretty clear about this in the part of my message that you
trimmed out, but I'll reiterate just in case: the series Daniel Axtens
and I are talking about is "powerpc-ieee1275: support larger core.elf
images" on which you provided feedback on 2021-11-23.  Daniel Axtens
last asked you on-list for additional debugging information on
2022-05-17, to which you have not replied.  Daniel also indicated in
that post that they are likely at the limit of their ability to debug
the failure regardless.

Be well,
--Robbie