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From: Peter Osterlund <petero2@telia.com>
To: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Tim Connors <tconnors+linuxkernel1073186591@astro.swin.edu.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?!
Date: 06 Jan 2004 03:28:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ekudq080.fsf@telia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FFA1149.5030009@cyberone.com.au>

Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au> writes:

> Peter Osterlund wrote:
> 
> >But the scheduler is also far from fair in this situation. If I run
> 
> snip a good analysis...
> 
> ... but fairness is not about a set of numbers the scheduler gives to
> each process, its about the amount of CPU time processes are given.
> 
> In this case I don't know if I find it objectionable that X and xterm
> are considered interactive and perl considered a CPU hog. What is the
> actual problem?

The problem is that if perl would get only slightly more cpu time, it
would get ahead of xterm, which would make this test case run
something like 10 times faster than it currently does. (Because xterm
switches to jump scrolling when it can't keep up.)

I guess it would be possible to fix this by introducing a
usleep(10000) at some strategic place in the xterm source code, but I
still find it strange that two tasks eating 40% cpu time each are
considered interactive, while a task eating 4% is considered a cpu
hog, especially since the 4% task never got a chance to prove that it
didn't want to steal all cpu time. All that was proven was that it
wanted more than 4% of the cpu.

Also, while my test case runs, other tasks (such as running "ps" from
a network login) are very slow, at least until the extra load makes
the scheduler realize that the two tasks eating most of the cpu time
should not have maximum priority bonus.

-- 
Peter Osterlund - petero2@telia.com
http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-06  2:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0401031439060.24942-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2004-01-03 20:19 ` xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?! Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-03 21:00   ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-03 21:10     ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-03 21:15       ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-03 23:35         ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04  0:11           ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04  1:42           ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-04  3:32             ` Tim Connors
2004-01-04  5:58               ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-06  1:09                 ` Peter Osterlund
2004-01-06  1:37                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-06  2:28                     ` Peter Osterlund [this message]
2004-01-06  2:50                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-06  6:27                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-05 22:25               ` Bryan Whitehead
2004-01-04  8:09             ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04  8:49               ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-04 11:13                 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-04 11:24                   ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04 12:45                   ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-04 14:42                     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-04 18:40                       ` mikeg
2004-01-04 22:58                       ` szonyi calin
2004-01-04 23:33                         ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04 23:44                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-04 23:47                           ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-05  8:39                             ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-05 20:38                               ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-05  9:18                             ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-05 17:20                               ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-05 17:21                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-05  9:50                             ` Kenneth Johansson
2004-01-05 10:17                               ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-04-02 18:22                               ` solved (was Re: xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?!) Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-04-03  5:35                                 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-03  6:06                                   ` Tim Connors
2004-04-03 14:11                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-01-05  8:26                         ` xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?! Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04  8:54               ` Lincoln Dale
2004-01-04  9:17                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-04 10:24                   ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04 11:12                     ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-04 11:17                       ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04 11:20                         ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-04 11:19                       ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-05  0:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-04 11:46                   ` Nicks's scheduler's OK [was Re: xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?!] Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04 12:07                   ` xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?! Willy Tarreau
2004-01-05  0:51                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-05 18:37                       ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-06  0:33                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-04 10:11                 ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-05 10:31                   ` venom
2004-01-03 21:18     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-03 21:39 Bob Gill
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0401031402210.24942-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2004-01-03 19:07 ` Soeren Sonnenburg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-03 18:52 Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-03 19:19 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04 20:47   ` Peter Chubb
2004-01-04 20:54     ` Willy TARREAU
2004-01-05  3:46       ` Peter Chubb

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