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From: khalasa@piap.pl (Krzysztof Hałasa)
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] 802.11n IBSS: wlan0 stops receiving packets due to aggregation after sender reboot
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:51:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m336fbsu2r.fsf@t19.piap.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4725dcbd6297c74bf949671e7ad48eeeb0ceb0d0.camel@sipsolutions.net> (Johannes Berg's message of "Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:07:30 +0100")

Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> writes:

>> The problem I can see is that the dialog_tokens are 8-bit, way too small
>> to eliminate conflicts.
>
> Well, they're also per station, we could just randomize the start and
> then we'd delete the old session and start a new one, on the receiver.
>
> So that would improve robustness somewhat (down to a 1/256 chance to hit
> this problem).

That was what I meant. Still, 1/256 seems hardly acceptable to me -
unless there is some work around (a short timeout or something similar).
Remember that when it doesn't work, it doesn't work - it won't recover
until the sequence catches up, which may mean basically forever.

Or, maybe the remote station can request de-aggregation first, so the
subsequent aggregation request is always treated as new?

Alternatively, perhaps the remote can signal that it's a new request and
not merely an existing session?

> That's the situation though - the local station needs to know that it
> has in fact *not* seen the same instance of the station, but that the
> station has reset and needs to be removed & re-added.

Precisely. And it seems to me that the first time the local station
learns of this is when a new, regular, non-aggregated packet arrives.
Or, when a new aggregation request arrives.
-- 
Krzysztof Halasa

ŁUKASIEWICZ Research Network
Industrial Research Institute for Automation and Measurements PIAP
Al. Jerozolimskie 202, 02-486 Warsaw, Poland

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-29 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-21 12:11 802.11n IBSS: wlan0 stops receiving packets due to aggregation after sender reboot Krzysztof Hałasa
2019-10-21 12:18 ` [PATCH] " Krzysztof Hałasa
2019-10-22  9:42   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2019-10-21 12:18 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2019-10-25 10:21 ` [PATCH v2] " Krzysztof Hałasa
2019-10-28 12:21   ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-29  8:41     ` Koen Vandeputte
2019-10-29  8:58       ` Sebastian Gottschall
2019-10-29  9:40         ` Koen Vandeputte
2019-10-29  9:03       ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-29  9:47         ` Koen Vandeputte
2019-10-29  8:54     ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2019-10-29  9:07       ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-29 10:51         ` Krzysztof Hałasa [this message]
2019-10-29 10:57           ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-09 10:28 ` [RFC] Allow userspace to reset IBSS stations to fix aggregation issue Nicolas Cavallari
2019-12-11  6:58   ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2019-12-11 10:31     ` Nicolas Cavallari
2019-12-09 10:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] ath6kl: Do not allow deleting station in IBSS mode Nicolas Cavallari
2019-12-09 10:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] brcmfmac: " Nicolas Cavallari
2019-12-09 10:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] mwifiex: " Nicolas Cavallari
2019-12-09 10:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] nl80211: Allow deleting stations in ibss mode to reset their state Nicolas Cavallari
2019-12-11 21:32   ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-12  9:56     ` Nicolas Cavallari

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