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From: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, barryn@pobox.com,
	bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Bug 13012] 2.6.28.9 causes init to segfault on Debian etch; 2.6.28.8 OK
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:29:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3k52d1775.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0907121058040.3552@localhost.localdomain> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Sun\, 12 Jul 2009 10\:58\:21 -0700 \(PDT\)")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> Ian: we generally do try to be careful and use explicit unsigned types for 
> code that cares about overflow, but we use -fwrapv because there have been 
> some cases where we didn't (and used pointer comparisons or signed 
> integers).
>
> The problem is that apparently gcc-4.1.x was literally generating buggy 
> code with -fwrapv. So now the choice for us is between switching to an 
> explicit version test:
>
> 	-KBUILD_CFLAGS  += $(call cc-option,-fwrapv)
> 	+KBUILD_CFLAGS  += $(shell if [ $(call cc-version) -ge 0402 ]; then \
> 	+                   echo $(call cc-option,-fwrapv); fi ;)
>
> or just switching to -fno-strict-overflow instead:
>
> 	-KBUILD_CFLAGS  += $(call cc-option,-fwrapv)
> 	+KBUILD_CFLAGS  += $(call cc-option,-fno-strict-overflow)
>
> which avoids the buggy gcc versions because it's simply not even supported 
> by gcc-4.1.x (and even if that wasn't the case, possibly because only 
> 'wrapv' is the problematic case - apparently the difference _does_ 
> matter to gcc).

My instinctive advice is that y'all should track down and fix the cases
where the program relies on signed overflow being defined.  However, if
that is difficult--and it is--then I agree that -fno-strict-overflow is
preferable when using a compiler which supports it (gcc 4.2.0 and
later).

(The gcc 4.2 and later option -Wstrict-overflow=N can help find the
cases where a program relies on defined signed overflow, but only if
somebody is patient enough to wade through all the false positives.)

Ian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-13  5:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-10  7:28 [Bug 13012] 2.6.28.9 causes init to segfault on Debian etch; 2.6.28.8 OK Frans Pop
2009-07-10 14:59 ` Frans Pop
2009-07-12 17:58   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-12 17:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-12 18:24     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-13  5:29     ` Ian Lance Taylor [this message]
2009-07-25  3:23       ` Dave Jones
2009-07-25 16:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-10 20:05 ` [PATCH,v2] Only add '-fwrapv' to gcc CFLAGS for gcc 4.2 and later Frans Pop
2009-07-17 22:18   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-07-17 22:43     ` Frans Pop
2009-07-18  6:59       ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-07-23 12:46         ` Frans Pop
2009-07-23 14:27           ` Sam Ravnborg

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