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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Chris Torek <chris.torek@gmail.com>
Cc: phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk, Carlo Arenas <carenas@gmail.com>,
	Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	thomas.wolf@paranor.ch, Alexander Veit <alexander.veit@gmx.net>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] editor: only save (and restore) the terminal if using a tty
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 15:48:42 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2112021542390.63@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPx1GvcML9TvmP1BSLN0vKWD++8LBj-68Xwmz-KrZM32Q=0_Ug@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Chris,

On Tue, 30 Nov 2021, Chris Torek wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:41 PM Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 23/11/2021 17:31, Carlo Arenas wrote:
> > > Restricting this feature further, maybe through a configuration
> > > property or even special casing the EDITOR is also IMHO a good idea.
> >
> > I think just doing this when we run the editor may be the way to go as I
> > think it is only that case that can mess up the terminal.
>
> If it only happens with certain versions of vi / vim, perhaps Git could come
> with a front end program that saves the tty state, runs vim, and restores the
> tty state. (Or set this up so that the program can run any editor.)  Then add
> a FAQ entry if needed: "if your editor goofs up the terminal, insert this front
> end program".

Putting myself into an end-user's shoes, I would much prefer not to be
asked to do extra work and I imagine that the millions of other users who
go with Git's default editor have the very same preference.

Just like we default to `LESS=FRX` for Git's default pager, and just like
we special-case `less` and `vi` in `git grep -O<program>`, it makes sense
to special-case `vi` when saving/restoring the terminal because we know it
helps users.

And by "special-case", I want to say that Git should provide a paved path
to success, not a workaround that users still have to configure manually.

Ciao,
Dscho

      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-02 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-22  8:42 Update to Git 2.34.0 breaks application Alexander Veit
2021-11-22 21:43 ` Phillip Wood
2021-11-22 22:28   ` [PATCH] editor: only save (and restore) the terminal if using a tty Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belón
2021-11-22 22:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-22 23:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-22 23:08       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-23  8:52         ` Alexander Veit
2021-11-23  9:08           ` Carlo Arenas
2021-11-22 23:39       ` Carlo Arenas
2021-11-23 17:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-24 13:29           ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-11-24 18:25             ` Carlo Arenas
2021-11-24 19:34             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-24 20:04               ` Carlo Arenas
2021-11-24 20:51                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-29 21:12               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-11-23 11:05     ` Phillip Wood
2021-11-23 17:27       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-23 17:31       ` Carlo Arenas
2021-11-30 11:07         ` Phillip Wood
2021-12-01  5:12           ` Chris Torek
2021-12-01 19:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-02  0:38               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-02  1:51                 ` Carlo Arenas
2021-12-02 14:48             ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]

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