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Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:43:34 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:57901 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751870AbeDPUne (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:43:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:43:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Jiri Kosina To: Sasha Levin cc: Pavel Machek , Linus Torvalds , Steven Rostedt , Petr Mladek , "stable@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , Cong Wang , Dave Hansen , Johannes Weiner , Mel Gorman , Michal Hocko , Vlastimil Babka , Peter Zijlstra , Jan Kara , Mathieu Desnoyers , Tetsuo Handa , Byungchul Park , Tejun Heo Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes In-Reply-To: <20180416203629.GO2341@sasha-vm> Message-ID: References: <20180415144248.GP2341@sasha-vm> <20180416093058.6edca0bb@gandalf.local.home> <20180416153031.GA5039@amd> <20180416155031.GX2341@sasha-vm> <20180416160608.GA7071@amd> <20180416161412.GZ2341@sasha-vm> <20180416170501.GB11034@amd> <20180416171607.GJ2341@sasha-vm> <20180416203629.GO2341@sasha-vm> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LSU 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: stable-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: stable@vger.kernel.org X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, Sasha Levin wrote: > So I think that Linus's claim that users come first applies here as > well. If there's a user that cares about a particular feature being > broken, then we go ahead and fix his bug rather then ignoring him. So one extreme is fixing -stable *iff* users actually do report an issue. The other extreme is backporting everything that potentially looks like a potential fix of "something" (according to some arbitrary metric), pro-actively. The former voilates the "users first" rule, the latter has a very, very high risk of regressions. So this whole debate is about finding a compromise. My gut feeling always was that the statement in Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst is very reasonable, but making the process way more "aggresive" when backporting patches is breaking much of its original spirit for me. -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs