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From: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mhiramat@kernel.org, bristot@redhat.com, jbaron@akamai.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@kernel.org, namit@vmware.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	luto@kernel.org, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/6] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke()
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 04:14:36 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.2001290404240.31058@cbobk.fhfr.pm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200129021619.cvbsvmag2v4tyjek@treble>

On Tue, 28 Jan 2020, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:

> > For the cases I've seen so far, it has always been gcc deciding under 
> > certain circumstances not to propagate __attribute__((__noreturn__)) from 
> > callee to caller even in the cases when caller unconditionally called 
> > callee.
> > 
> > AFAIU, the behavior is (and always will) be dependent on the state of gcc 
> > optimizations, and therefore I don't see any other way than adding 
> > __noreturn anotation transitively everywhere in order to silence objtool.
> > 
> > So those cases have to be fixed anyway.
> > 
> > What are the other cases please? Either I have completely missed those, or 
> > they haven't been mentioned in this thread.
> 
> For example, see:
> 
>   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jpoimboe/linux.git/commit/?h=objtool-fixes&id=6265238af90b395a1e5e5032a41f012a552d8a9e
> 
> Many of those callees are static noreturns, for which we've *never*
> needed annotations.  Disabling -fipa-pure-const has apparently changed
> that.

For some reason I thought you were talking about static inlines, sorry for 
the noise.

Yeah, so I agree with you -- whether we need those anotations depends on 
compiler implementation of optimizations, and most importantly on (the 
current state of) internal implementation of specific optimizations in 
gcc.

Leaving live patching completely aside for the sake of this discussion for 
now -- I believe we either fully rely on gcc to propagate the 'noreturn' 
propery throughout the callstack upward, or we don't.

If we don't, then we do need the anotations (both the global and static 
ones), and problem solved.

If we do, well, where is the 'this is *the* behavior of any current/future 
clang^Wcompiler' invariant guarantee?

Thanks,

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-29  3:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-07  9:02 [RESEND] everything text-poke: ftrace, modules, static_call and jump_label Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:17 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 1/6] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate instructions Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 14:29     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-08 14:40       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-08 14:50         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-08 14:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 14:54         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-08 15:04           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-08 15:24             ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-09 12:03     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 2/6] x86/alternatives: Update int3_emulate_push() comment Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 3/6] x86/alternatives,jump_label: Provide better text_poke() batching interface Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-09 12:04     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 4/6] x86/alternatives: Add and use text_gen_insn() helper Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08  6:23     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-10-08  8:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 5/6] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 14:43     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-08 17:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 17:27         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10  2:41       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10  9:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-10 13:19           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10 14:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-10 15:54               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10 17:28                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-10 17:48                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 10:45                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 10:47                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 10:50                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 12:59                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 13:33                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 13:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 13:07                     ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-15 13:56                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 14:11                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 14:13                         ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-15 15:06                           ` Joe Lawrence
2019-10-15 15:31                             ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-15 22:17                               ` Joe Lawrence
2019-10-15 22:27                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-16  7:42                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-16 10:15                                     ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-21 15:05                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-20 16:50                                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-21  8:35                                         ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-21 16:10                                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-22 10:09                                             ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-22 21:42                                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-28  9:28                                                 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-28 15:00                                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-28 15:40                                                     ` Petr Mladek
2020-01-28 17:02                                                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-29  0:46                                                         ` Jiri Kosina
2020-01-29  2:17                                                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-29  3:14                                                             ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2020-01-29 12:28                                                         ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-29 15:59                                                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-30  9:53                                                             ` Petr Mladek
2020-01-30 14:17                                                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-31  7:17                                                                 ` Petr Mladek
2020-01-22 12:15                                             ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-22 15:05                                               ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-22 22:03                                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-23 10:19                                                   ` Martin Jambor
2019-10-16  7:49                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-16 10:20                                     ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-16 13:29                                       ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-18 13:03                                         ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-18 13:40                                           ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-21 14:14                                             ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-21 15:31                                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22  8:27                                           ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-22 14:31                                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23  9:04                                               ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-16  6:51                             ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-16  9:23                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-16  9:36                                 ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-16  9:51                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-16 12:39                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-22  8:45                                 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-15 14:42                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 18:31                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 15:51                         ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-15 13:28                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-15 13:42                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 16:09                       ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 6/6] x86/mm: Remove set_kernel_text_r[ow]() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 15:07   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke() Steven Rostedt
2019-10-07  8:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Propagate module notifier errors Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:25   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] notifier: Fix broken error handling pattern Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-10 22:01     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-10-07  8:25   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] module: Fix up module_notifier return values Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-23 19:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-07  8:25   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] module: Properly propagate MODULE_STATE_COMING failure Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 13:08     ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-07  8:25   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] jump_label,module: Fix module lifetime for __jump_label_mod_text_reserved Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-23 19:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-07  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Add static_call() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 01/13] compiler.h: Make __ADDRESSABLE() symbol truly unique Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 02/13] static_call: Add basic static call infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07 11:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 03/13] static_call: Add inline " Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 04/13] static_call: Avoid kprobes on inline static_call()s Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 05/13] x86/static_call: Add out-of-line static call implementation Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 06/13] x86/static_call: Add inline static call implementation for x86-64 Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 07/13] static_call: Simple self-test Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 08/13] tracepoints: Use static_call Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 09/13] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate RET Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 10/13] static_call: Add static_cond_call() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 11/13] static_call: Handle tail-calls Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 12/13] static_call: Allow early init Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 13/13] x86/perf, static_call: Optimize x86_pmu methods Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07 11:33   ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Add static_call() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Variable size jump_label support Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] jump_label, x86: Strip ASM " Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] jump_label, x86: Factor out the __jump_table generation Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] jump_label, x86: Remove init NOP optimization Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] jump_label, x86: Improve error when we fail expected text Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] jump_label, x86: Introduce jump_entry_size() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] jump_label, x86: Add variable length patching support Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] jump_label,objtool: Validate variable size jump labels Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] jump_label,objtool: Generate possible statistics Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] jump_label, x86: Enable JMP8/NOP2 support Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07 12:07   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Variable size jump_label support Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07 12:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-10-07 15:08       ` Steven Rostedt

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