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From: Petr Lautrbach <plautrba@redhat.com>
To: Dominick Grift <dac.override@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	selinux@vger.kernel.org, Petr Lautrbach <plautrba@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] scripts/selinux: add basic mls support to mdp
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 13:11:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pjdmumsm0zv.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d0np8tfw.fsf@gmail.com>


Dominick Grift <dac.override@gmail.com> writes:

> Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 7:12 AM Dominick Grift 
>> <dac.override@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 01:04:12PM +0100, Dominick Grift 
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 02:48:45PM -0500, Stephen Smalley 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > <snip>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > Oh, I see: scripts/selinux/install_policy.sh just invokes 
>>> > > checkpolicy
>>> > > without specifying -U / --handle-unknown, so the policy 
>>> > > defaults to deny,
>>> > > and that would indeed render dbus-daemon and systemd 
>>> > > broken with that
>>> > > policy.  Might be as simple to fix as passing -U allow.
>>> >
>>> > I have looked a litte into this and here are some 
>>> > observations:
>>> >
>>> > 1. You can boot mdp as-is in permissive mode if you use 
>>> > `checkpolicy` with `-U allow`
>>> >
>>> > 2. You need *at least* an `/etc/selinux/dummy/seusers` with
>>> > `__default__:user_u` and an accompanying
>>> > `/etc/selinux/dummy/contexts/failsafe_context` with
>>> > `base_r:base_t` to boot mdp in enforcing
>>
>> Wow.  I didn't expect we would get to this point so quickly.
>>
>> Originally my plan had been to just merge the mdp changes that 
>> Stephen
>> submitted, and leave the rest for some other time.  Although 
>> based on
>> everything in this thread, it looks like we are really close to 
>> having
>> something that you can build and boot without too many hacks.
>>
>>> > 3. There is an issue with checkpolicy and object_r:
>>> >
>>> > PAM libselinux clients such as `login` try to associate 
>>> > `object_r` with the tty and fail.
>>> >
>>> > if you try to append: `role object_r; role object_r types 
>>> > base_t;`
>>> > to policy.conf and compile that with `checkpolicy` then the
>>> > `roletype-rule` does *not* end up in the compiled policy for 
>>> > some
>>> > reason.
>>
>> This sounds like a bug in checkpolicy ... ?
>
> Yes, looks like it
>
>>
>>> > thus, you cannot log in because object_r:base_t is not 
>>> > valid.
>>> >
>>> > To hack around this add `default_role * source` rules to 
>>> > policy.conf and recompile.
>>> >
>>> > This will allow you to log into the system locally in 
>>> > enforcing mode.
>>> >
>>> > 4. I also noticed that fedoras' ssh seems to hardcode 
>>> > `sshd_net_t`
>>> > for its "privsep" functionality so, while untested, you 
>>> > probably
>>> > need an `openssh_contexts` with `privsep_preauth=base_t`

"sshd_net_t" is really hardcoded as a fallback but
ssh_selinux_change_context("sshd_net_t"); is not a fatal 
operation.
If it fails it just logs a debug message and the type of the 
process
stays unaffected - by default it's sshd_t

I believe that openssh_context is not necessary if you don't mind 
or
want to use different type for privsep preauth sshd processes.


>> Petr, what's the deal with ssh on Fedora?
>
> I wonder whether it would be possible (and feasible) to not 
> transition on
> privsep_preauth at all *unless* a privsep preauth type is 
> specified in
> openssh_context.
>
> Currently it falls back to a hardcoded type to transition to if
> openssh_contexts does not exist.
>
> Then again, i would not want to risk breaking or regressing some 
> of the nice
> functionality openssh in fedora has for selinux. It's state is 
> currently
> very good even compared to RHEL.

I think it's feasible without a big risk. 

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1678695

>>
>>> The `install_policy.sh` script should probably also do a bash 
>>> file test for `checkpolicy` and fail gracefully if its not 
>>> found


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-02-19 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-15 14:50 [PATCH v3] scripts/selinux: add basic mls support to mdp Stephen Smalley
2019-02-15 15:00 ` Paul Moore
2019-02-15 15:03   ` Stephen Smalley
2019-02-15 15:05     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-02-15 15:18       ` Paul Moore
2019-02-15 15:25       ` Stephen Smalley
2019-02-15 15:37         ` Paul Moore
2019-02-15 15:40         ` Stephen Smalley
2019-02-15 16:52           ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-15 17:16             ` Stephen Smalley
2019-02-15 17:19               ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-15 17:24             ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-15 19:11               ` Paul Moore
2019-02-15 19:21                 ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-15 19:30                   ` Stephen Smalley
2019-02-15 19:36                     ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-15 19:48                       ` Stephen Smalley
2019-02-16 12:04                         ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-16 12:12                           ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-18  3:12                             ` Paul Moore
2019-02-18  7:08                               ` Dominick Grift
     [not found]                                 ` <CAB9W1A3f1jxJQPrU-o=gEKzgjRGmbThoqPvzbK7QNqprdE-LAw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-02-19  8:15                                   ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-19 11:08                                   ` Dominick Grift
     [not found]                                     ` <CAB9W1A2s+PcrC=fPXA9AYRm1oVYArsRCGKihM5mjUqnQtuLe3w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                       ` <CAB9W1A3Pef5pfAZ8UEvSQYvWA9oZTRNPvWFCHw8e9eqZsGvGWA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-02-20 10:27                                         ` Petr Lautrbach
2019-02-19 12:11                                 ` Petr Lautrbach [this message]
2019-02-19 12:37                                   ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-19 12:40                                     ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-15 16:50         ` Dominick Grift
2019-02-15 15:15     ` Paul Moore

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