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From: kilobug@freesurf.fr (Gaël Le Mignot)
To: Larry McVoy <lm@work.bitmover.com>
Cc: Christian Reichert <c.reichert@resolution.de>,
	John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>,
	lkml@lrsehosting.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lm@bitmover.com, rms@gnu.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [OT] HURD vs Linux/HURD
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:46:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <plopm3he5i8l4h.fsf@drizzt.kilobug.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030719172311.GA23246@work.bitmover.com> (Larry McVoy's message of "Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:23:11 -0700")

Hello Larry!

Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:23:11 -0700, you wrote: 

 >> - GNU/Hurd, the  whole systems, is  actually GNU tools  (libc, linker,
 >> ...)  on top  of the  GNU Hurd  (set of  servers) and  the  GNU Mach
 >> microkernel.

 > Mach wasn't written by GNU, it's a BSD based kernel

Totally wrong. You're confusing the  Mach operating system (with UX, a
BSD-server on top of the  Mach micro-kernel) and the Mach micro-kernel
itself.

> pried apart into chunks by people at CMU.

GNU Mach is  a modified version of OSF Mach  which is modified version
of CMU Mach.

 > Drivers and networking account for about 50% of the total lines of code.
 > The bulk of the work in any operating system is typically drivers.  The
 > generic part of Linux (non-driver, non-file system) is tiny compared to 
 > the rest.

Maybe  for  you,  an  OS  is  drivers.  For  me,  it's  a  design,  an
architecture, a  philosophy, and a way  to defend a value  that is not
important for you: Freedom.

 > If the Hurd gets its drivers from Linux then it should rightfully be called
 > Linux/HURD (or Linux/HURD/GNU).

Stop trolling, thank you.

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-19 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-19 15:03 [OT] HURD vs Linux/HURD John Bradford
2003-07-19 15:02 ` Christian Reichert
2003-07-19 17:09   ` Gaël Le Mignot
2003-07-19 17:23     ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 17:46       ` Gaël Le Mignot [this message]
2003-07-19 18:12         ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 18:41           ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-07-19 18:45             ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 20:07               ` Gaël Le Mignot
2003-07-19 20:05           ` Gaël Le Mignot
2003-07-19 20:28             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-19 22:03             ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 22:23               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-19 22:33               ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-20  6:35                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-19 18:58         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-19 22:42         ` Greg KH
2003-07-19 15:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-07-19 15:16 ` Linux Kernel Mailing List
2003-07-20  6:32   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-20  0:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-07-20 13:23   ` Charles E. Youse
2003-07-20 13:41     ` David Lloyd
2003-07-20 14:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-07-20 15:27       ` Brian McGroarty
2003-07-22  4:52     ` Miles Bader
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-20 17:24 John Bradford
2003-07-20 13:49 John Bradford
2003-07-20 16:59 ` Horst von Brand
2003-07-19 10:33 Bitkeeper John Bradford
2003-07-19 14:00 ` [OT] HURD vs Linux/HURD Linux Kernel Mailing List

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