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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Chris Bagwell <chris@cnpbagwell.com>,
	Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, xorg-devel@lists.x.org,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>,
	Duncan McGreggor <duncan.mcgreggor@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] Input: synaptics - remove touches over button click area
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:40:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5h39sc39xq.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101011173015.GB27304@core.coreip.homeip.net>

At Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:30:16 -0700,
Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 07:10:33PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > At Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:24:04 -0500,
> > Chris Bagwell wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Chase Douglas
> > > <chase.douglas@canonical.com> wrote:
> > > > Now that we have proper multitouch support, we can handle integrated
> > > > buttons better. If we know the top of the buttons on the touchpad, we
> > > > can ignore any touches that occur within the touchpad area while a
> > > > button is clicked. It may be possible to get the button area by querying
> > > > the device, but for now allow the user to manually set it.
> > > >
> > > > A note on why this works: the Synaptics touchpads have pseudo touch
> > > > tracking. When two touches are on the touchpad, an MT touch packet with
> > > > just the X, Y, and pressure values is sent before a normal Synaptics
> > > > touch packet. When one touch is obviously in motion and the other is
> > > > stationary, the touchpad controller sends the touch in motion in the
> > > > normal packet and the stationary touch in the MT packet. Single touch
> > > > emulation is provided by the normal packet, so an action like clicking
> > > > a button and dragging with another finger still works as expected.
> > > >
> > > > Tested on a Dell Mini 1012 with synaptics_multitouch=1 and
> > > > synaptics_button_thresh=4100.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c |   16 +++++++++++++++-
> > > >  1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c b/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c
> > > > index 7289d88..e67778d 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c
> > > > @@ -49,6 +49,12 @@ module_param(synaptics_multitouch, bool, 0644);
> > > >  MODULE_PARM_DESC(synaptics_multitouch,
> > > >                 "Enable multitouch mode on Synaptics devices");
> > > >
> > > > +static int synaptics_button_thresh = YMIN_NOMINAL + YMAX_NOMINAL;
> > > > +module_param(synaptics_button_thresh, int, 0644);
> > > > +MODULE_PARM_DESC(synaptics_button_thres,
> > > > +                "Y coordinate threshold of integrated buttons on Synaptics "
> > > > +                "devices");
> > > > +
> > > >  /*****************************************************************************
> > > >  *     Stuff we need even when we do not want native Synaptics support
> > > >  ****************************************************************************/
> > > > @@ -463,6 +469,10 @@ static void synaptics_parse_hw_state(unsigned char buf[], struct synaptics_data
> > > >        }
> > > >  }
> > > >
> > > > +#define TOUCH_OVER_BUTTON(hw) (((hw).left || (hw).middle || (hw).right) && \
> > > > +                              (YMAX_NOMINAL + YMIN_NOMINAL - (hw).y > \
> > > > +                               synaptics_button_thresh))
> > > > +
> > > >  /*
> > > >  *  called for each full received packet from the touchpad
> > > >  */
> > > > @@ -477,7 +487,7 @@ static void synaptics_process_packet(struct psmouse *psmouse)
> > > >        synaptics_parse_hw_state(psmouse->packet, priv, &hw);
> > > >
> > > >        if (SYN_MULTITOUCH(priv, &hw)) {
> > > > -               if (hw.z > 0) {
> > > > +               if (hw.z > 0 && !TOUCH_OVER_BUTTON(hw)) {
> > > >                        input_report_abs(dev, ABS_MT_POSITION_X, hw.x);
> > > >                        input_report_abs(dev, ABS_MT_POSITION_Y,
> > > >                                         YMAX_NOMINAL + YMIN_NOMINAL - hw.y);
> > > > @@ -509,6 +519,10 @@ static void synaptics_process_packet(struct psmouse *psmouse)
> > > >                return;
> > > >        }
> > > >
> > > > +       /* If touch occurs over depressed button, ignore it */
> > > > +       if (TOUCH_OVER_BUTTON(hw))
> > > > +               hw.z = 0;
> > > > +
> > > >        if (hw.z > 0) {
> > > >                priv->num_fingers++;
> > > >                finger_width = 5;
> > > > --
> > > > 1.7.1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > I'm convinced now that clickpad style touchpads can't work without
> > > multi-touch and something like logic in xf86-input-multitouch.
> > 
> > Actually Clickpad works without multi-touch patch.  With my patches to
> > synaptics, it worked in some level.  There are many restrictions (e.g.
> > pushing the button first then drag), though.
> > 
> 
> I am OK with devices not working perfectly with default/existing
> drivers, but we should allow enough functionality (movement, primary
> - left - click and so on) so that user can go through install and/or
> upgrade of  userpsace component.
> 
> This also mean that we need to have userspace component available before
> changing the behavior that will cause adverse effect for older setups.
> Of course if we could avoid degrading older setups that would be even
> better.

The xorg synaptics patches work with 2.6.34 or later kernel that contains
SYN_CAP_CLICKPAD() in kernel driver.

The question from now on is about the multi-touch patch, I'd say.
One concern is the compatibility.  The multi-touch is definitely
benefit for non-clickpad devices.  I guess integrating mtdev into xorg
synaptics would be a good way to go, while picking up the minimal
support for MT (like my patches) might be a quicker at this moment.

In anyway, I see no merit for implementing clickpad support in the
kernel driver for the time being, especially since the multi-touch can
be better supported in the user-space.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-11 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-08 14:57 [PATCH 0/3] Input: synaptics - multitouch and multifinger support Chase Douglas
2010-10-08 14:57 ` [PATCH 1/3] Input: synaptics - add multitouch support Chase Douglas
2010-10-08 14:57   ` [PATCH 2/3] Input: synaptics - add multitouch multifinger support Chase Douglas
2010-10-08 14:58     ` [PATCH 3/3] Input: synaptics - remove touches over button click area Chase Douglas
2010-10-10 15:58       ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 16:24       ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 16:24         ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 17:10         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 17:10           ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 17:30           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 17:30             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 17:40             ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2010-10-11 17:46           ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 17:46             ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 17:54             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-10-11 18:29             ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 18:29               ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-10 15:44     ` [PATCH 2/3] Input: synaptics - add multitouch multifinger support Chris Bagwell
2010-10-10 15:37   ` [PATCH 1/3] Input: synaptics - add multitouch support Chris Bagwell
2010-10-10 15:41   ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-08 16:37 ` [PATCH 0/3] Input: synaptics - multitouch and multifinger support Takashi Iwai
2010-10-08 16:38   ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-08 17:48     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-08 17:15   ` Chase Douglas
2010-10-08 17:46     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-08 18:04     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-08 19:31       ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-10 21:04         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11  7:35           ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11  7:48             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-10-11  7:59               ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 13:41               ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 13:41                 ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 14:01                 ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 14:01                   ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 14:24                   ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-10-11 14:49                     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 15:31                       ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-10-11 15:58                         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-10  7:49   ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-10-10 20:59     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11  7:28       ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11  7:40         ` Henrik Rydberg

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