From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C983C7619F for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alsa0.perex.cz (alsa0.perex.cz [77.48.224.243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC35620725 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=alsa-project.org header.i=@alsa-project.org header.b="Ex+WyEyf" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org CC35620725 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=suse.de Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (alsa1.perex.cz [207.180.221.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A24D82E; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 10:07:18 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa0.perex.cz 2A24D82E DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=alsa-project.org; s=default; t=1581930488; bh=yYGz8yHqUF05Np1tAQbqqFgnTpl/3IoHKPjoTFYq1D0=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Cc:Subject:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From; b=Ex+WyEyffbN1Jyl65mmTP0yu4KaSLopMZYj4CQ5PlVdYOyiy0FbRMi+YByjWNq5Y0 8Zb9COxBL0HBFmNVF65IHmd2MRd7f6gr0D7owGYWYnBcw8iW/DAo58oARfpmeUI7rt b03/pAVmXX52HdAr9eKjTEI9DFQ0DzDl0Bgz289Q= Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A636F80096; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 10:07:17 +0100 (CET) Received: by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix, from userid 50401) id 2CCA6F8015E; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 10:07:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8828AF80096 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 10:07:13 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa1.perex.cz 8828AF80096 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE56DBDA2; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 10:07:12 +0100 Message-ID: From: Takashi Iwai To: Jaroslav Kysela In-Reply-To: <77884bad-81fd-f876-3f72-1f96a39d6329@perex.cz> References: <77884bad-81fd-f876-3f72-1f96a39d6329@perex.cz> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/25.3 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Cc: ALSA development Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] DMARC & gmail & cirrus.com X-BeenThere: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Alsa-devel mailing list for ALSA developers - http://www.alsa-project.org" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: "Alsa-devel" On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:46:22 +0100, Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > > Hi all, > > today, all gmail users were unsubscribed from the mailing > list, because we have users who sends e-mails from domains with the > DMARC policy reject (like cirrus.com). The mailman counts those > bounces and unsubscribe users who do not receive those e-mails. The > nice explanation is here: > > https://www.linuxchix.org/content/mailing-list-changes > > I can enable the "Replace the From: header address" in the > mailman config to "Munge From" like in the above example, but it will > mean that From: will be altered (see the explanation). > > Another option is to disable the bounce check in mailman, but > it will cause that the "dead" subscribers are not detected anymore. > > Any opinions on this? If the number of such dead subscribers isn't too rapidly growing, the manual bounce check and unsubscribing would work? Takashi > > Jaroslav > > SMTP error: > > (host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[173.194.73.26] said: 550-5.7.26 > Unauthenticated email from cirrus.com is not accepted due to domain's > 550-5.7.26 DMARC policy. Please contact the administrator of > cirrus.com domain 550-5.7.26 if this was a legitimate mail. Please > visit 550-5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to > learn about the 450 4.7.26 DMARC initiative. m14si10079981ljg.84 - > gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)) > > DMARC settings for cirrus.com: > > v=DMARC1; p=reject; > fo=1;rua=mailto:dmarc_rua@emaildefense.proofpoint.com;ruf=mailto:dmarc_ruf@emaildefense.proofpoint.com > > -- > Jaroslav Kysela > Linux Sound Maintainer; ALSA Project; Red Hat, Inc. > _______________________________________________ > Alsa-devel mailing list > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org > https://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel > _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org https://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel