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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Tanu Kaskinen <tanuk@iki.fi>
Cc: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Arun Raghavan <arun@arunraghavan.net>,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	pulseaudio-discuss@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] pulseaudio fails to start with kernel 4.11, caused by new snd_hdmi_lpe_audio module)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:30:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hfuhwjjm7.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1490794037.2239.7.camel@iki.fi>

On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:27:17 +0200,
Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 2017-03-29 at 16:14 +0300, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
> > On Wed, 2017-03-29 at 15:06 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 14:59:45 +0200,
> > > Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2017-03-29 at 07:21 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > Does PA really need to start streaming at its invocation time?
> > > > > The crash happens when PA gets started via desktop autostart, and at
> > > > > this moment, the HDMI graphics state is possible disconnected before
> > > > > xrandr setup.  The HDMI connection state should have been informed /
> > > > > notified to PA via the jack interface, so it should be possible to
> > > > > judge beforehand.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Or it might be something wrong in the driver side regarding the jack
> > > > > state processing?
> > > > 
> > > > I had a closer look at the PA log that was posted earlier. It looks
> > > > like the device numbering is non-standard. Trying to open any of the
> > > > hdmi:1,x devices fails. hw:1 can be opened, and pulseaudio assumes that
> > > > it's an analog stereo device. Jack detection isn't going to work in
> > > > this situation, because pulseaudio doesn't know that it should be
> > > > looking at the hdmi jacks.
> > > > 
> > > > Can the driver be fixed to use the standard HDMI device numbers?
> > > 
> > > Hmm, it might be the missing hdmi PCM definition?
> > > 
> > > The latest alsa-lib git already contains the card config for HDMI LPE
> > > audio, and this might help.  (Though, I thought I still saw the same
> > > PA problem even with the card config.  Unfortunately I can't access
> > > the box with the DP audio right now, so others may help more quickly
> > > than me...)
> > > 
> > > Can anyone confirm that you have the latest alsa-lib git installed and
> > > whether the PA issue is fixed or not?
> > 
> > If the alsa-lib configuration just maps hdmi:1,0 to hw:1,0, then I
> > would expect this problem to persist. If hw:1,0 can be opened,
> > pulseaudio will think that there's an analog stereo output. If hdmi:1,0
> > works too, then pulseaudio will think that there are two separate
> > outputs, and if the hdmi jack state says that hdmi is not available,
> > pulseaudio will use what it thinks is an analog output.
> > 
> > If it's not possible to change the device numbering in the driver, this
> > will have to be worked around in pulseaudio somehow (pulseaudio
> > shouldn't try to use hw:1,0 on this hardware).
> 
> Adding to that: ignoring hw:1,0 won't be enough. For jack detection,
> pulseaudio will look for a jack control named HDMI/DP,pcm=3, which
> probably won't exist if HDMI uses hw:1,0.

For LPE audio, it's "HDMI/DP" (with ",pcm=*" that can be omitted for
dev=0).


Takashi

      reply	other threads:[~2017-03-29 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-20 11:42 pulseaudio fails to start with kernel 4.11, caused by new snd_hdmi_lpe_audio module) Hans de Goede
2017-03-20 11:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-03-20 23:09   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2017-03-21  5:40     ` Takashi Iwai
2017-03-21  7:54       ` Arun Raghavan
2017-03-21  8:56         ` [pulseaudio-discuss] " Hans de Goede
2017-03-21  9:04           ` Arun Raghavan
2017-03-21 14:49             ` [pulseaudio-discuss] " Hans de Goede
2017-03-21 15:05               ` Arun Raghavan
2017-03-23  3:16           ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2017-03-23  8:57             ` [pulseaudio-discuss] " Takashi Iwai
2017-03-24 18:18               ` [alsa-devel] " Tanu Kaskinen
2017-03-24 22:01                 ` [pulseaudio-discuss] " Hans de Goede
2017-03-28 20:10                   ` [alsa-devel] " Tanu Kaskinen
2017-03-29  5:21                     ` Takashi Iwai
2017-03-29 12:59                       ` Tanu Kaskinen
2017-03-29 13:06                         ` Takashi Iwai
2017-03-29 13:14                           ` [pulseaudio-discuss] " Tanu Kaskinen
2017-03-29 13:26                             ` Takashi Iwai
2017-03-29 14:40                               ` [alsa-devel] " Tanu Kaskinen
2017-03-29 14:51                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-03-30 16:06                                   ` Tanu Kaskinen
2017-03-30 19:26                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2017-03-29 13:27                             ` Tanu Kaskinen
2017-03-29 13:30                               ` Takashi Iwai [this message]

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