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From: Alberto Garcia <berto@igalia.com>
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Proposed qcow2 extension: subcluster allocation
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:36:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <w51mvbkv38k.fsf@maestria.local.igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3654f226-d51a-5013-8301-5beb83200aa8@openvz.org>

On Thu 13 Apr 2017 03:09:53 PM CEST, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
>>> For nowadays SSD we are facing problems somewhere else. Right now I
>>> can achieve only 100k IOPSes on SSD capable of 350-550k. 1 Mb block
>>> with preallocation and fragmented L2 cache gives same 100k. Tests
>>> for initially empty image gives around 80k for us.
>> Preallocated images aren't particularly interesting to me. qcow2 is
>> used mainly for two reasons. One of them is sparseness (initially
>> small file size) mostly for desktop use cases with no serious I/O, so
>> not that interesting either. The other one is snapshots, i.e. backing
>> files, which doesn't work with preallocation (yet).
>>
>> Actually, preallocation with backing files is something that
>> subclusters would automatically enable: You could already reserve the
>> space for a cluster, but still leave all subclusters marked as
>> unallocated.
>
> I am spoken about fallocate() for the entire cluster before actual
> write() for originally empty image. This increases the performance of
> 4k random writes 10+ times. In this case we can just write those 4k
> and do nothing else.

You're talking about using fallocate() for filling a cluster with zeroes
before writing data to it.

As noted earlier in this thread, this works if the image is empty or if
it doesn't have a backing file.

And if the image is not empty you cannot guarantee that the cluster
contains zeroes (you can use FALLOC_FL_ZERO_RANGE, but that won't work
in all cases).

Berto

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-13 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-06 15:01 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Proposed qcow2 extension: subcluster allocation Alberto Garcia
2017-04-06 16:40 ` Eric Blake
2017-04-07  8:49   ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-07 12:41   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-07 14:24     ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-21 21:09   ` [Qemu-devel] proposed qcow2 extension: cluster reservations [was: " Eric Blake
2017-04-22 17:56     ` Max Reitz
2017-04-24 11:45       ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-24 12:46       ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-07 12:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-07 12:24   ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-07 13:01   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-10 15:32     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-07 17:10 ` Max Reitz
2017-04-10  8:42   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-10 15:03     ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11 12:56   ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-11 14:04     ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11 14:31       ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-11 14:45         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Eric Blake
2017-04-12 12:41           ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-12 14:10             ` Max Reitz
2017-04-13  8:05               ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13  9:02                 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13  9:05                   ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-11 14:49         ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2017-04-11 14:58           ` Eric Blake
2017-04-11 14:59           ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11 15:08             ` Eric Blake
2017-04-11 15:18               ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11 15:29                 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-11 15:29                   ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11 15:30                 ` Eric Blake
2017-04-11 15:34                   ` Max Reitz
2017-04-12 12:47           ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-12 16:54 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 11:58   ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13 12:44     ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 13:05       ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 13:09         ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 13:36           ` Alberto Garcia [this message]
2017-04-13 14:06             ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 13:21       ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13 13:30         ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 13:59           ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 15:04           ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13 15:17             ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-18 11:52               ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-18 17:27                 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 13:51         ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 14:15           ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13 14:27             ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 16:42               ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Roman Kagan
2017-04-13 14:42           ` [Qemu-devel] " Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-12 17:55 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-12 18:20   ` Eric Blake
2017-04-12 19:02     ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13  9:44       ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 10:19         ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-14  1:06           ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " John Snow
2017-04-14  4:17             ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-18 11:22               ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-18 17:30                 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-14  7:40             ` Roman Kagan

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