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From: bsegall@google.com
To: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
Cc: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>,
	xlpang@redhat.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: do not announce throttled next buddy in dequeue_task_fair
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:49:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xm26k2gnhm3d.fsf@bsegall-linux.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANRm+CzMiTu6h5wncJ1G9BrQ0u=yqx4fPznEsvjf_JkA_8dRhw@mail.gmail.com> (Wanpeng Li's message of "Fri, 15 Jul 2016 06:30:22 +0800")

Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com> writes:

> 2016-07-15 1:54 GMT+08:00  <bsegall@google.com>:
>> Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> 2016-07-14 1:06 GMT+08:00  <bsegall@google.com>:
>>>> Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> 2016-07-13 1:25 GMT+08:00  <bsegall@google.com>:
>>>>>> Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11.07.2016 15:12, Xunlei Pang wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2016/07/11 at 17:54, Wanpeng Li wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Konstantin, Xunlei,
>>>>>>>>> 2016-07-11 16:42 GMT+08:00 Xunlei Pang <xpang@redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2016/07/11 at 16:22, Xunlei Pang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016/07/11 at 15:25, Wanpeng Li wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-06-16 20:57 GMT+08:00 Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hierarchy could be already throttled at this point. Throttled next
>>>>>>>>>>>>> buddy could trigger null pointer dereference in pick_next_task_fair().
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is cfs_rq->next check in pick_next_entity(), so how can null
>>>>>>>>>>>> pointer dereference happen?
>>>>>>>>>>> I guess it's the following code leading to a NULL se returned:
>>>>>>>>>> s/NULL/empty-entity cfs_rq se/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pick_next_entity():
>>>>>>>>>>>      if (cfs_rq->next && wakeup_preempt_entity(cfs_rq->next, left) < 1)
>>>>>>>>>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>> I think this will return false.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the wrong throttled_hierarchy(), I think this can happen. But after we have the
>>>>>>>> corrected throttled_hierarchy() patch, I can't see how it is possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dequeue_task_fair():
>>>>>>>>      if (task_sleep && parent_entity(se))
>>>>>>>>          set_next_buddy(parent_entity(se));
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does dequeue_task_fair() with DEQUEUE_SLEEP set(true task_sleep) happen to a throttled hierarchy?
>>>>>>>> IOW, a task belongs to a throttled hierarchy is running?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe Konstantin knows the reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This function (dequeue_task_fair) check throttling but at point it could skip several
>>>>>>> levels and announce as next buddy actually throttled entry.
>>>>>>> Probably this bug hadn't happened but this's really hard to prove that this is impossible.
>>>>>>> ->set_curr_task(), PI-boost or some tricky migration in balancer could break this easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sched_setscheduler can call put_prev_task, which then can cause a
>>>>>> throttle outside of __schedule(), then the task blocks normally and
>>>>>> deactivate_task(DEQUEUE_SLEEP) happens and you lose.
>>>>>
>>>>> The cfs_rq_throttled() check in dequeue_task_fair() will capture the
>>>>> cfs_rq which is throttled in sched_setscheduler::put_prev_task path,
>>>>> so nothing lost, where I miss?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Wanpeng Li
>>>>
>>>> The cfs_rq_throttled() checks there are done bottom-up, so they will
>>>> trigger too late. a/b/t, where t is descheduling and a is throttled can
>>>> still cause a set_next_buddy(b);
>>>
>>> throttle cfs_rq is up-bottom, so when a is throttled, b and c are not
>>> yet, then task_sleep && se && !throttled_hierarchy(cfs_rq) still can't
>>> prevent a set_next_buddy(b).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Wanpeng Li
>>
>> They don't race or anything, everything's under rq->lock.
>> throttled_hierarchy will register properly, the issue is that a parent
>> is the one cfs_rq_throttled(), not the current cfs_rq, and
>> set_next_buddy will set cfs_rq->next to an se that is !on_rq.
>
> Why b is !on_rq after throttle a?
>
> Regards,
> Wanpeng Li

a is !on_rq (because of throttle), but set_next_buddy will set ->next up
the entire tree.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-14 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 12:57 [PATCH] sched/fair: do not announce throttled next buddy in dequeue_task_fair Konstantin Khlebnikov
2016-06-16 17:06 ` bsegall
2016-06-21 13:44 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2016-06-24  9:00 ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched/fair: Do not announce throttled next buddy in dequeue_task_fair() tip-bot for Konstantin Khlebnikov
2016-07-11  7:25 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: do not announce throttled next buddy in dequeue_task_fair Wanpeng Li
2016-07-11  8:15   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2016-07-11  8:22   ` Xunlei Pang
2016-07-11  8:42     ` Xunlei Pang
2016-07-11  9:54       ` Wanpeng Li
2016-07-11 12:12         ` Xunlei Pang
2016-07-11 12:26           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2016-07-12 17:25             ` bsegall
2016-07-13  1:50               ` Wanpeng Li
2016-07-13  1:58                 ` Xunlei Pang
2016-07-13  2:14                   ` Wanpeng Li
2016-07-13 17:06                 ` bsegall
2016-07-14 12:11                   ` Wanpeng Li
2016-07-14 17:54                     ` bsegall
2016-07-14 22:30                       ` Wanpeng Li
2016-07-14 22:49                         ` bsegall [this message]
2016-07-14 23:03                           ` Wanpeng Li

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