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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org>
Cc: "Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Lars Schneider" <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	"Marc Branchaud" <marcnarc@xiplink.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] checkout: Force matching mtime between files
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:48:37 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqin8f4qoq.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <robbat2-20180425T060717-325652820Z@orbis-terrarum.net> (Robin H. Johnson's message of "Wed, 25 Apr 2018 07:13:38 +0000")

"Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org> writes:

> In the thread from 6 years ago, you asked about tar's behavior for
> mtimes. 'tar xf' restores mtimes from the tar archive, so relative
> ordering after restore would be the same, and would only rebuild if the
> original source happened to be dirty.
>
> This behavior is already non-deterministic in Git, and would be improved
> by the patch.

But Git is not an archiver (tar), but is a source code control
system, so I do not think we should spend any extra cycles to
"improve" its behaviour wrt the relative ordering, at least for the
default case.  Only those who rely on having build artifact *and*
source should pay the runtime (and preferrably also the
maintainance) cost.

The best approach to do so is to have those people do the "touch"
thing in their own post-checkout hook.  People who use Git as the
source control system won't have to pay runtime cost of doing the
touch thing, and we do not have to maintain such a hook script.
Only those who use the "feature" would.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-25  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-13 17:01 [RFC PATCH] checkout: Force matching mtime between files Michał Górny
2018-04-23 20:07 ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-23 23:41   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-25  7:13     ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-25  8:48       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2018-04-25 15:18         ` Marc Branchaud
2018-04-25 20:07           ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-26  1:25           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-26 14:12             ` Marc Branchaud
2018-04-26 14:46             ` Michał Górny
2018-04-28 14:23               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-28 19:35                 ` Michał Górny
2018-04-26 16:43           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-26 17:48             ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-26 18:44               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-29 23:56                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-30 15:10                   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-27 17:03           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-27 21:08             ` Elijah Newren
2018-04-28  6:08               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-29 23:47               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-27 21:08             ` Marc Branchaud
2018-04-28  6:16               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-27 17:18           ` Michał Górny
2018-04-27 19:53             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-25  8:41     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-26 17:15       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-26 17:51         ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-26 17:53         ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-04-26 18:45           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-24 14:41 ` Marc Branchaud
2018-04-25  6:58 ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-25  7:13   ` Michał Górny
2018-05-05 18:44 ` Jeff King
2018-05-06  3:37   ` Junio C Hamano

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