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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>,
	Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] archive: optionally add "virtual" files
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:27:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqk0e19jrp.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f83ed995-6dff-bc41-8782-48ac9f1a2651@web.de> (=?utf-8?Q?=22R?= =?utf-8?Q?en=C3=A9?= Scharfe"'s message of "Fri, 11 Feb 2022 20:16:43 +0100")

René Scharfe <l.s.r@web.de> writes:

>> Or if people do not _exclude_ tracked files from the archive, then
>> the verifier who has a tarball and a Git tree object can consult the
>> tree object to see which ones are added untracked cruft.
>
> True, but if you have the tree objects then you probably also have the
> blobs and don't need the archive?  Or is this some kind of sparse
> checkout scenario?

My phrasing was too loose.  This is a "how to verify a distro
tarball" (without having a copy of the project repository, but with
some common tools like "git") scenario.

The verifier has a tarball.  In addition, the verifier knows the
object name of the Git tree object the tarball was taken from, and
somehow trusts that the object name is genuine.  We can do either
"untar + git-add . && git write-tree" or its equivalent to see how
the contents hashes to the expected tree (or not).

How the verifier trusts the object name is out of scope (it may come
from a copy of a signed tag object and a copy of the commit object
that the tag points at and the contents of signed tag object, with
its known format, would allow you to write a stand alone tool to
verify the PGP signature).

Line-end normalization and smudge filter rules may get in the way,
if we truly did "untar" to the filesystem, but I thought "git
archive" didn't do smudge conversion and core.crlf handling when
creating the archive?



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-11 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-26  8:41 [PATCH 0/5] scalar: implement the subcommand "diagnose" Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-01-26  8:41 ` [PATCH 1/5] Implement `scalar diagnose` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-01-26  9:34   ` René Scharfe
2022-01-26 22:20     ` Taylor Blau
2022-02-06 21:34       ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-01-27 19:38   ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-26  8:41 ` [PATCH 2/5] scalar diagnose: include disk space information Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-01-26  8:41 ` [PATCH 3/5] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather packfile info Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-01-26 22:43   ` Taylor Blau
2022-01-27 15:14     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-02-06 21:38       ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-01-26  8:41 ` [PATCH 4/5] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather loose objects information Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-01-26 22:50   ` Taylor Blau
2022-01-27 15:17     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-01-27 18:59   ` Elijah Newren
2022-02-06 21:25     ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-01-26  8:41 ` [PATCH 5/5] scalar diagnose: show a spinner while staging content Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-01-27 15:19 ` [PATCH 0/5] scalar: implement the subcommand "diagnose" Derrick Stolee
2022-02-06 21:13   ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-02-06 22:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-02-06 22:39   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] archive: optionally add "virtual" files Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-02-07 19:55     ` René Scharfe
2022-02-07 23:30       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-08 13:12         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-02-08 17:44           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-08 20:58             ` René Scharfe
2022-02-09 22:48               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-10 19:10                 ` René Scharfe
2022-02-10 19:23                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-11 19:16                     ` René Scharfe
2022-02-11 21:27                       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-02-12  9:12                         ` René Scharfe
2022-02-13  6:25                           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-13  9:02                             ` René Scharfe
2022-02-14 17:22                               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-08 12:54       ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-02-06 22:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] scalar: validate the optional enlistment argument Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-02-06 22:39   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] Implement `scalar diagnose` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-02-07 19:55     ` René Scharfe
2022-02-08 12:08       ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-02-06 22:39   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] scalar diagnose: include disk space information Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-02-06 22:39   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather packfile info Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-02-06 22:39   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather loose objects information Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-05-04 15:25   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] scalar: implement the subcommand "diagnose" Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-04 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] archive: optionally add "virtual" files Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-04 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] archive --add-file-with-contents: allow paths containing colons Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-07  2:06       ` Elijah Newren
2022-05-09 21:04         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-05-04 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] scalar: validate the optional enlistment argument Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-04 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] Implement `scalar diagnose` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-04 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] scalar diagnose: include disk space information Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-04 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather packfile info Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-05-04 15:25     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather loose objects information Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-05-07  2:23     ` [PATCH v3 0/7] scalar: implement the subcommand "diagnose" Elijah Newren
2022-05-10 19:26     ` [PATCH v4 " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-10 19:26       ` [PATCH v4 1/7] archive: optionally add "virtual" files Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-10 21:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-10 22:06           ` rsbecker
2022-05-10 23:21             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-11 16:14               ` René Scharfe
2022-05-11 19:27                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-12 16:16                   ` René Scharfe
2022-05-12 18:15                     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-12 21:31                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-14  7:06                         ` René Scharfe
2022-05-12 22:31           ` [PATCH] fixup! " Junio C Hamano
2022-05-10 19:26       ` [PATCH v4 2/7] archive --add-file-with-contents: allow paths containing colons Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-10 21:56         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-10 22:23           ` rsbecker
2022-05-19 18:12             ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-05-19 18:09           ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-05-19 18:44             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-10 19:27       ` [PATCH v4 3/7] scalar: validate the optional enlistment argument Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-17 14:51         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-18 17:35           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-20  7:30             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-20 15:55               ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-05-21  9:54                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-22  5:50                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-24 12:25                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-05-24 18:11                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-24 19:29                         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-25 10:31                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-05-10 19:27       ` [PATCH v4 4/7] Implement `scalar diagnose` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-17 14:53         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-10 19:27       ` [PATCH v4 5/7] scalar diagnose: include disk space information Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-10 19:27       ` [PATCH v4 6/7] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather packfile info Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-05-10 19:27       ` [PATCH v4 7/7] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather loose objects information Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-05-17 15:03       ` [PATCH v4 0/7] scalar: implement the subcommand "diagnose" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-17 15:28         ` rsbecker
2022-05-19 18:17           ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-05-19 18:17       ` [PATCH v5 " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 18:17         ` [PATCH v5 1/7] archive: optionally add "virtual" files Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-20 14:41           ` René Scharfe
2022-05-20 16:21             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-19 18:17         ` [PATCH v5 2/7] archive --add-file-with-contents: allow paths containing colons Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 18:17         ` [PATCH v5 3/7] scalar: validate the optional enlistment argument Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 18:18         ` [PATCH v5 4/7] Implement `scalar diagnose` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 18:18         ` [PATCH v5 5/7] scalar diagnose: include disk space information Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 18:18         ` [PATCH v5 6/7] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather packfile info Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 18:18         ` [PATCH v5 7/7] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather loose objects information Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-05-19 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 0/7] scalar: implement the subcommand "diagnose" Junio C Hamano
2022-05-21 15:08         ` [PATCH v6 " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-21 15:08           ` [PATCH v6 1/7] archive: optionally add "virtual" files Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-25 21:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26  9:09               ` René Scharfe
2022-05-26 17:10                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26 18:57                   ` René Scharfe
2022-05-26 20:16                     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-27 17:02                       ` René Scharfe
2022-05-27 19:01                         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-28  6:57                           ` René Scharfe
2022-05-21 15:08           ` [PATCH v6 2/7] archive --add-virtual-file: allow paths containing colons Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-25 20:22             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-25 21:42               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-25 22:34                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-21 15:08           ` [PATCH v6 3/7] scalar: validate the optional enlistment argument Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-21 15:08           ` [PATCH v6 4/7] Implement `scalar diagnose` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-21 15:08           ` [PATCH v6 5/7] scalar diagnose: include disk space information Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-05-21 15:08           ` [PATCH v6 6/7] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather packfile info Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-05-21 15:08           ` [PATCH v6 7/7] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather loose objects information Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget
2022-05-28 23:11           ` [PATCH v6+ 0/7] js/scalar-diagnose rebased Junio C Hamano
2022-05-28 23:11             ` [PATCH v6+ 1/7] archive: optionally add "virtual" files Junio C Hamano
2022-05-28 23:11             ` [PATCH v6+ 2/7] archive --add-virtual-file: allow paths containing colons Junio C Hamano
2022-06-15 18:16               ` Adam Dinwoodie
2022-06-15 20:00                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-15 21:36                   ` Adam Dinwoodie
2022-06-18 20:19                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-06-18 22:05                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-20  9:41                       ` Adam Dinwoodie
2022-05-28 23:11             ` [PATCH v6+ 3/7] scalar: validate the optional enlistment argument Junio C Hamano
2022-05-28 23:11             ` [PATCH v6+ 4/7] scalar: implement `scalar diagnose` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-10  2:08               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-10 16:44                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-10 17:35                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-28 23:11             ` [PATCH v6+ 5/7] scalar diagnose: include disk space information Junio C Hamano
2022-05-28 23:11             ` [PATCH v6+ 6/7] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather packfile info Junio C Hamano
2022-05-28 23:11             ` [PATCH v6+ 7/7] scalar: teach `diagnose` to gather loose objects information Junio C Hamano
2022-05-30 10:12             ` [PATCH v6+ 0/7] js/scalar-diagnose rebased Johannes Schindelin
2022-05-30 17:37               ` Junio C Hamano

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