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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>,
	Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] docs: new capability to advertise trace2 SIDs
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 09:32:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqo8k2jxa2.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d00ihdqf.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (=?utf-8?B?IsOGdmFyIEFy?= =?utf-8?B?bmZqw7Zyw7A=?= Bjarmason"'s message of "Thu, 12 Nov 2020 15:05:44 +0100")

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

> AFAICT the way it's documented now is the "is the session-id[...]"
> paragraph in api-trace2.txt.
>
> I'd like to see us document the implementation a bit better and
> explicitly support the "hack" of setting GIT_TRACE2_PARENT_SID=hello.
>
> I.e. maybe I've missed something but we just say "session-id is
> prepended with the session-id of the parent" but don't mention that we
> separate them with slashes, so you can split on that to get the depth &
> individual ID's.
>
> My reading of the updated doc patch in v3 is that not allowing
> "non-printable or whitespace" allows you to e.g. have slashes in those
> custom session IDs, which would be quite inconvenient since it would
> break that property.

A few things I want to see stakeholders agree on:

 - In "a/b/c", what's the "session ID" of the leaf child process?
   "a/b/c"?  or "c"?  If the former (which is what I am guessing),
   do we have name to refer to "b" or "c" alone (if not, we should
   have one)?

 - Do we encourage/force other implementations of Git protocol to
   adopt a similar "slash-separated non-whitespace ASCII printable"
   structure?  I do not think such a structure is too limiting but
   others may feel differently.  Or is a "session ID" supposed to be
   an opaque token without any structure, and upon seeing "a/b/c"
   the recipient should not read anything into its slash, or any
   relation  with another session whose ID is "a/b/d"?

> And we should explicitly support the GIT_TRACE2_PARENT_SID=* setting
> from an external process, and make the SID definition loose enough to
> allow for SIDs that don't look like Git's in that chain. I.e. a useful
> property (and one I've seen in the wild) is to have some external
> programt that already has SIDs/UUID run IDs spawn git, setting
> GIT_TRACE2_PARENT_SID=<that program's SID> makes things convenient for
> the purposes of logging.n

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-12 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-29 21:32 [PATCH 00/10] Advertise trace2 SID in protocol capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 01/10] docs: new capability to advertise trace2 SIDs Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 02/10] docs: new trace2.advertiseSID option Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 03/10] upload-pack: advertise trace2 SID in v0 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 04/10] receive-pack: " Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 05/10] serve: advertise trace2 SID in v2 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 06/10] transport: log received server trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 07/10] fetch-pack: advertise trace2 SID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 08/10] upload-pack, serve: log received client trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 09/10] send-pack: advertise trace2 SID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 10/10] receive-pack: log received client trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-10-30 15:54 ` [PATCH 00/10] Advertise trace2 SID in protocol capabilities Jeff Hostetler
2020-11-02 22:20   ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-03 21:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 21:01       ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-11-10 21:37       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-10-30 22:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-02 22:30 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] " Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:30   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] docs: new capability to advertise trace2 SIDs Josh Steadmon
2020-11-03 21:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 21:00       ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-11-12 14:05         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-11-12 17:32           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2020-11-12 22:10             ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-11-11 22:40       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 02/11] docs: new trace2.advertiseSID option Josh Steadmon
2020-11-03 21:42     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 19:28       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-05 21:24         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-06 11:57           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 03/11] trace2: add a public function for getting the SID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 04/11] upload-pack: advertise trace2 SID in v0 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-03 21:48     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 18:44       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 05/11] receive-pack: " Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 06/11] serve: advertise trace2 SID in v2 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-04 21:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 07/11] transport: log received server trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-04 21:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-11 22:53       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-12 21:30         ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 08/11] fetch-pack: advertise trace2 SID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-04 21:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 18:58       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-05 19:21         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-11 23:32           ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 09/11] upload-pack, serve: log received client trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-04 21:26     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 19:12       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 10/11] send-pack: advertise trace2 SID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 11/11] receive-pack: log received client trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-03  1:02   ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Advertise trace2 SID in protocol capabilities Junio C Hamano
2020-11-11 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Advertise session ID " Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 01/11] docs: new capability to advertise session IDs Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 02/11] docs: new transfer.advertiseSID option Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 03/11] trace2: add a public function for getting the SID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 04/11] upload-pack: advertise session ID in v0 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 05/11] receive-pack: " Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 06/11] serve: advertise session ID in v2 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 07/11] transport: log received server session ID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 08/11] fetch-pack: advertise session ID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 09/11] upload-pack, serve: log received client session ID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 10/11] send-pack: advertise session ID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 11/11] receive-pack: log received client session ID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-25 22:08   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Advertise session ID in protocol capabilities Junio C Hamano
2020-11-25 22:56     ` Josh Steadmon

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