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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] test-lib.sh: have all tests pass under "-x", remove BASH_XTRACEFD
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 10:38:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqpmqg1873.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <patch-1.1-9f735bd0d49-20211129T200950Z-avarab@gmail.com> (=?utf-8?B?IsOGdmFyCUFybmZqw7Zyw7A=?= Bjarmason"'s message of "Mon, 29 Nov 2021 21:13:23 +0100")

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason  <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

> Change the "t1510-repo-setup.sh" test to use a new
> "test_must_be_empty_trace" wrapper, instead of turning on
> "test_untraceable=UnfortunatelyYes".
>
> The only reason the test was incompatible with "-x" was because of
> these "test_must_be_empty" checks, which we can instead instead skip
> if we're running under "set -x".
>
> Skipping the tests is preferable to not having the "-x" output at all,

Even more preferrable is not to skip the tests, no?  Is this because
we capture the standard error stream and do not care where, between
the command being tested and the shell running the command, the
output came from?

> Once that's been removed we can dig deeper and see that we only have
> "BASH_XTRACEFD" due to an earlier attempt to work around the same
> issue. See d88785e424a (test-lib: set BASH_XTRACEFD automatically,
> 2016-05-11) and the 90c8a1db9d6 (test-lib: silence "-x" cleanup under
> bash, 2017-12-08) follow-up.

If the objective is to work around the "shell trace and program
output are mixed together" issue, BASH_XTRACEFD is doing much more
superb job to "solve" it than "some tests depend on running without
'-x', so punt and skip them" to "work around" it, I would have to
say.

> It's better if our test suite works the same way on all shells, rather
> than getting a passing run under "bash", only to have it fail with
> "-x" under say "dash". As the deleted code shows this is much simpler
> to implement across our supported POSIX shells.

It is much simpler to punt and skip all tests.  You can even have
"if run with -x stop and skip all" in early part of test-lib.sh and
that would "work around" without developers constantly having to
worry about the distinction between test_must_be_empty and the trace
variant.

It is a sad that you have to trade one good thing for another.
Somehow, this change feels like a regression, not an improvement.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-01 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-29 13:47 [PATCH 0/2] Set GIT_TRACE2_EVENT_NESTING in test-lib.sh Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 13:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] test-lib.sh: set GIT_TRACE2_EVENT_NESTING Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 14:12   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 18:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-29 18:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-29 13:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] t/t*: remove custom GIT_TRACE2_EVENT_NESTING Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 18:40 ` [PATCH 0/2] Set GIT_TRACE2_EVENT_NESTING in test-lib.sh Jeff King
2021-11-29 18:44   ` Jeff King
2021-11-30  0:04     ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-30 15:34   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-30 22:43     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-12-01 19:46       ` Jeff King
2021-11-29 20:13 ` [PATCH] test-lib.sh: have all tests pass under "-x", remove BASH_XTRACEFD Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 23:23   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-30 21:08   ` Jeff King
2021-11-30 21:50     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-30 22:44     ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-12-01 14:06       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-01 19:38         ` Jeff King
2021-12-01 18:38   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-12-01 20:11   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-01 20:11     ` [PATCH v2 1/2] t1510: remove need for "test_untraceable", retain coverage Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-02 19:16       ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-12-02 19:28         ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-12-10  9:47         ` Jeff King
2021-12-10 10:08           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-06 21:40           ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-12-01 20:11     ` [PATCH v2 2/2] test-lib.sh: remove the now-unused "test_untraceable" facility Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-10 10:07     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] test-lib.sh: have all tests pass under "-x", remove BASH_XTRACEFD Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-10 10:07       ` [PATCH v3 1/2] t1510: remove need for "test_untraceable", retain coverage Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-10 10:07       ` [PATCH v3 2/2] test-lib.sh: remove the now-unused "test_untraceable" facility Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 16:32         ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-12-12 17:06           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:14             ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-12-13 18:51               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-14 16:43                 ` Jeff King
2021-12-15 17:05                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-15 17:17                     ` Jeff King
2021-12-15 17:32                       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-16 13:04                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-13  1:38       ` [PATCH v4 0/3] test-lib.sh: have all tests pass under "-x", remove BASH_XTRACEFD Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-13  1:38         ` [PATCH v4 1/3] t1510: remove need for "test_untraceable", retain coverage Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-13  1:38         ` [PATCH v4 2/3] test-lib.sh: remove the now-unused "test_untraceable" facility Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-13  1:38         ` [PATCH v4 3/3] test-lib.sh: remove "BASH_XTRACEFD" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-21 23:11           ` SZEDER Gábor
2022-02-22 15:14             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-13  5:43         ` [PATCH v4 0/3] test-lib.sh: have all tests pass under "-x", remove BASH_XTRACEFD SZEDER Gábor
2022-02-21 19:52           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-21 21:03             ` SZEDER Gábor
2022-02-21 22:41               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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