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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Luke Shumaker <lukeshu@lukeshu.com>
Cc: "Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Avery Pennarun" <apenwarr@gmail.com>,
	"Charles Bailey" <cbailey32@bloomberg.net>,
	"Danny Lin" <danny0838@gmail.com>,
	"David A . Greene" <greened@obbligato.org>,
	"David Aguilar" <davvid@gmail.com>,
	"Jakub Suder" <jakub.suder@gmail.com>,
	"James Denholm" <nod.helm@gmail.com>, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Roger L Strain" <roger.strain@swri.org>,
	"Techlive Zheng" <techlivezheng@gmail.com>,
	"Luke Shumaker" <lukeshu@datawire.io>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/30] subtree: t7900: use consistent formatting
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:33:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqv987auzh.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0ona2a5.wl-lukeshu@lukeshu.com> (Luke Shumaker's message of "Tue, 27 Apr 2021 14:41:22 -0600")

Luke Shumaker <lukeshu@lukeshu.com> writes:

>> If Luke is volunteering to take over its maintainership, it would be
>> appreciated by its users.  It has been in the "abandonware" status
>> for too long.
>
> I think I am volunteering.

Wonderful, and thanks.

> Elsewhere in the thread, you suggested that subtree be taken out of
> git.git, and live as a standalone project.
>
> I'm not entirely opposed to that, but
>
>  1. I'm not sure how whoever picks it up (me) establishes their
>     git-subtree as the "real" subtree (get a blessing from Avery?).

Avery is so distant a past, but a work like this series, while we
still have it in contrib/ in my tree, will help build necessary
trust in you by the Git user/developer community, and when that
happens, it would be obvious to everybody that you would be the new
owner of the tool.

And when that happens while the tool is in the contrib/ in my tree,
and you'd be an established trusted member of the development
community by then, I do not mind if you take it and maintain out of
tree, if you keep working on the tool still in contrib/, or if you
polish it to the main porcelain status and take it out of contrib/
and make it part of the git-core proper.

> On the other hand, I think that in the long-ish term git-subtree wants
> to be rewritten in a better-suited language.  My personal inclination
> would be Go, but if I ever want it to graduate to git-core, it'd have
> to be C, huh?

If somebody is willing to do a rewrite and will maintain it for a
long haul, I'd say that it would not necessarily have to be in C
especially if it is not performance sensitive.

As long as it is done in a widely available language, that is (which
used to man Perl or Python, but my persoonal preference won't carry
that much weight these days ;-)

Then folks who really want it in C can rewrite the rewrite on their
own after that.

One advantage you may have if you choose to take it out of my tree
and make it a standalone project is that you have more latitude on
the future implementation technology, but we'd need to start from
helping you earn the trust by convincing others that "subtree" would
be in good hands with your volunteering ;-)

Thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-28  4:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-23 19:42 [PATCH 00/30] subtree: clean up, improve UX Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 01/30] .gitignore: Ignore /git-subtree Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 02/30] subtree: t7900: update for having the default branch name be 'main' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 03/30] subtree: t7900: use test-lib.sh's test_count Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 04/30] subtree: t7900: use consistent formatting Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 21:51   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-23 22:54     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27  7:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-27 20:41       ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-28  4:33         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 05/30] subtree: t7900: comment subtree_test_create_repo Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 06/30] subtree: t7900: use 'test' for string equality Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 07/30] subtree: t7900: delete some dead code Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 08/30] subtree: t7900: fix 'verify one file change per commit' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 09/30] subtree: t7900: rename last_commit_message to last_commit_subject Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 10/30] subtree: t7900: add a test for the -h flag Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 11/30] subtree: t7900: add porcelain tests for 'pull' and 'push' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 20:19   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-23 22:27     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 12/30] subtree: don't have loose code outside of a function Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 20:05   ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 20:23   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-23 22:43     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 23:11       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-23 23:37         ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 13/30] subtree: more consistent error propagation Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 14/30] subtree: drop support for git < 1.7 Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 20:07   ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 20:31   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-23 23:28     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 23:50       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-24  0:20         ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 15/30] subtree: use `git merge-base --is-ancestor` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 16/30] subtree: use git-sh-setup's `say` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 17/30] subtree: use more explicit variable names for cmdline args Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 18/30] subtree: use $* instead of $@ as appropriate Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 20:40   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-23 23:50     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-24  5:18       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 19/30] subtree: give `$(git --exec-path)` precedence over `$PATH` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26  8:27   ` =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 20/30] subtree: use "^{commit}" instead of "^0" Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26  7:43   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 21/30] subtree: parse revs in individual cmd_ functions Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 22/30] subtree: remove duplicate check Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 23/30] subtree: add comments and sanity checks Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 20:58   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-23 23:58     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 24/30] subtree: don't let debug and progress output clash Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 21:07   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-24  0:44     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-24  4:54       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 25/30] subtree: have $indent actually affect indentation Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 26/30] subtree: give the docs a once-over Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 27/30] subtree: allow --squash to be used with --rejoin Luke Shumaker
2021-04-24  5:50   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-25  0:04     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 28/30] subtree: allow 'split' flags to be passed to 'push' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 29/30] subtree: push: allow specifying a local rev other than HEAD Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 19:42 ` [PATCH 30/30] subtree: be stricter about validating flags Luke Shumaker
2021-04-25  2:55   ` Danny Lin
2021-04-26 17:35     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-23 20:12 ` [PATCH 00/30] subtree: clean up, improve UX Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26  7:55   ` =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason
2021-04-27  7:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-26 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 " Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:44   ` [PATCH v2 01/30] .gitignore: Ignore /git-subtree Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:44   ` [PATCH v2 02/30] subtree: t7900: update for having the default branch name be 'main' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:44   ` [PATCH v2 03/30] subtree: t7900: use test-lib.sh's test_count Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:44   ` [PATCH v2 04/30] subtree: t7900: use consistent formatting Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 19:57     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 05/30] subtree: t7900: comment subtree_test_create_repo Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 06/30] subtree: t7900: use 'test' for string equality Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 07/30] subtree: t7900: delete some dead code Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 08/30] subtree: t7900: fix 'verify one file change per commit' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 09/30] subtree: t7900: rename last_commit_message to last_commit_subject Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 10/30] subtree: t7900: add a test for the -h flag Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 11/30] subtree: t7900: add porcelain tests for 'pull' and 'push' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 12/30] subtree: don't have loose code outside of a function Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 13/30] subtree: more consistent error propagation Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 14/30] subtree: drop support for git < 1.7 Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 15/30] subtree: use `git merge-base --is-ancestor` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 16/30] subtree: use git-sh-setup's `say` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 17/30] subtree: use more explicit variable names for cmdline args Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 18/30] subtree: use "$*" instead of "$@" as appropriate Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 19/30] subtree: Don't fuss with PATH Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 23:16     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 20/30] subtree: use "^{commit}" instead of "^0" Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 21/30] subtree: parse revs in individual cmd_ functions Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 22/30] subtree: remove duplicate check Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 23/30] subtree: add comments and sanity checks Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 24/30] subtree: don't let debug and progress output clash Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 25/30] subtree: have $indent actually affect indentation Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 26/30] subtree: give the docs a once-over Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 27/30] subtree: allow --squash to be used with --rejoin Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 19:58     ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 28/30] subtree: allow 'split' flags to be passed to 'push' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 29/30] subtree: push: allow specifying a local rev other than HEAD Luke Shumaker
2021-04-26 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 30/30] subtree: be stricter about validating flags Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17   ` [PATCH v3 00/30] subtree: clean up, improve UX Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 01/30] .gitignore: Ignore /git-subtree Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 02/30] subtree: t7900: update for having the default branch name be 'main' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-30  9:38       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-30 16:07         ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 03/30] subtree: t7900: use test-lib.sh's test_count Luke Shumaker
2021-04-30  9:45       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-30 16:10         ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 04/30] subtree: t7900: use consistent formatting Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 05/30] subtree: t7900: comment subtree_test_create_repo Luke Shumaker
2021-04-30  9:48       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-30 16:13         ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 06/30] subtree: t7900: use 'test' for string equality Luke Shumaker
2021-04-30  9:55       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-30 16:33         ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 07/30] subtree: t7900: delete some dead code Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 08/30] subtree: t7900: fix 'verify one file change per commit' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 09/30] subtree: t7900: rename last_commit_message to last_commit_subject Luke Shumaker
2021-04-30  9:59       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 10/30] subtree: t7900: add a test for the -h flag Luke Shumaker
2021-04-30 10:01       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-30 16:40         ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-30 12:22       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-04-30 16:48         ` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 11/30] subtree: t7900: add porcelain tests for 'pull' and 'push' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 12/30] subtree: don't have loose code outside of a function Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 13/30] subtree: more consistent error propagation Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 14/30] subtree: drop support for git < 1.7 Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 15/30] subtree: use `git merge-base --is-ancestor` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 16/30] subtree: use git-sh-setup's `say` Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 17/30] subtree: use more explicit variable names for cmdline args Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 18/30] subtree: use "$*" instead of "$@" as appropriate Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 19/30] subtree: don't fuss with PATH Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 20/30] subtree: use "^{commit}" instead of "^0" Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 21/30] subtree: parse revs in individual cmd_ functions Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 22/30] subtree: remove duplicate check Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 23/30] subtree: add comments and sanity checks Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 24/30] subtree: don't let debug and progress output clash Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 25/30] subtree: have $indent actually affect indentation Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 26/30] subtree: give the docs a once-over Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 27/30] subtree: allow --squash to be used with --rejoin Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 28/30] subtree: allow 'split' flags to be passed to 'push' Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 29/30] subtree: push: allow specifying a local rev other than HEAD Luke Shumaker
2021-04-27 21:17     ` [PATCH v3 30/30] subtree: be stricter about validating flags Luke Shumaker
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2021-04-28  0:24         ` Luke Shumaker

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