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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] fsck: check tag objects' headers
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:46:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqwq9o2s6l.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140829234641.GG24834@peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:46:41 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> Hmm. But that is because "git tag" always makes one type of tag: one in
> which the "tag" field is the same as the refname in which we store it.
> So the name must be a valid refname there to meet the ref storage
> requirement, and therefore the tag name must, too.
>
> But is that something we necessarily need or want to enforce? Is it OK
> for me to have refs/tags/foo pointing to a tag object that is not
> related to "foo" (either semantically or syntactically)?
>
> I dunno. I cannot think of a reason you would want to do such a thing,
> but this seems like outlawing it because git does not generate it, not
> because it is necessarily a problematic thing to be doing.

Thanks for straightening me out.

If "git fsck" were a tool to validate that the objects and refs are
in line with how "git-core" plumbing and Porcelain toolset uses the
underlying Git data model, it makes sense to insist a tag has a name
that is suitable for a refname, and the tag is pointed by a ref in
"refs/tags/" followed by its name.  The rules such a "git fsck" should
implement would be stricter than what the underlying Git data model
could represent and existing Git tools could handle (i.e. a commit
with broken ident line may not be usable with "shortlog -e" and would
be flagged as corrupt).

But tightening rules in that direction may risk hindering future
progress in an unnecessary way.  We may want to be a bit lenient
when we see something _unusual_ but not necessarily _wrong_, and the
line between them would be blurry in places, as Git is an evolving
software.  It is good to warn about an unsual ones, but we probably
would not want to error on them.

This tightening may be too strict without a very good reason.  For
example, a tentative signed tag (e.g. "for-linus") often used in a
pull request to have it recorded in the resulting merge by the
integrator does not inherently need to be named at all; the ref is
only necessary as a means to transfer the signature from the
contributor to the integrator, and once merged, there is no need for
the tag to have any name.  When we try to improve the workflow to
integrate authenticated work done on the side branch, we may come up
with a way to do so _without_ having to actually have a tag name
(i.e. the "tag" contributor creates for such a purpose may not be
done by "git tag -s" when asking the result to be pulled but do
something different, and it may be perfectly fine for such a
tentative tag to lack the "tag " name line), but still allows us to
record the same merge-tag in the resulting merge commit.

So...

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-31 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-28 14:46 [PATCH 0/6] Improve tag checking in fsck and with transfer.fsckobjects Johannes Schindelin
2014-08-28 14:46 ` [PATCH 1/6] Refactor type_from_string() to avoid die()ing in case of errors Johannes Schindelin
2014-08-28 20:43   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-28 14:46 ` [PATCH 2/6] Accept object data in the fsck_object() function Johannes Schindelin
2014-08-28 20:47   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-29 23:10     ` Jeff King
2014-08-29 23:05   ` Jeff King
2014-08-28 14:46 ` [PATCH 3/6] Make sure fsck_commit_buffer() does not run out of the buffer Johannes Schindelin
2014-08-28 20:59   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-29 23:27   ` Jeff King
2014-08-28 14:46 ` [PATCH 4/6] fsck: check tag objects' headers Johannes Schindelin
2014-08-28 21:25   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-28 21:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-29 23:46       ` Jeff King
2014-08-31 22:46         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2014-09-03 22:29           ` Jeff King
2014-09-03 23:14             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-04  2:04               ` Jeff King
2014-08-29 23:43     ` Jeff King
2014-09-02 18:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-03 21:38         ` Jeff King
2014-08-28 14:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] Add regression tests for stricter tag fsck'ing Johannes Schindelin
2014-08-28 14:47 ` [PATCH 6/6] Make sure that index-pack --strict fails upon invalid tag objects Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Improve tag checking in fsck and with transfer.fsckobjects Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-10 13:58   ` Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-10 21:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-10 21:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-11 14:20       ` Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-11 14:26   ` [PATCH v3 " Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-11 14:26     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] Refactor type_from_string() to avoid die()ing in case of errors Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-11 14:26     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] Accept object data in the fsck_object() function Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-11 14:26     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] Make sure fsck_commit_buffer() does not run out of the buffer Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-11 14:26     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] fsck: check tag objects' headers Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-11 14:26     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] Add regression tests for stricter tag fsck'ing Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-11 14:26     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] Make sure that index-pack --strict checks tag objects Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-11 17:58       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-11 21:16         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-11 21:17           ` [PATCH 0/3] hash-object --literally Junio C Hamano
2014-09-11 21:17             ` [PATCH 1/3] hash-object: reduce file-scope statics Junio C Hamano
2014-09-11 21:17             ` [PATCH 2/3] hash-object: pass 'write_object' as a flag Junio C Hamano
2014-09-11 21:17             ` [PATCH 3/3] hash-object: add --literally option Junio C Hamano
2014-09-12  8:04           ` [PATCH v3 6/6] Make sure that index-pack --strict checks tag objects Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-12  8:07     ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Improve tag checking in fsck and with transfer.fsckobjects Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-12  8:07       ` [PATCH v4 1/6] Refactor type_from_string() to avoid die()ing in case of errors Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-12  8:07       ` [PATCH v4 2/6] Accept object data in the fsck_object() function Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-12  8:07       ` [PATCH v4 3/6] Make sure fsck_commit_buffer() does not run out of the buffer Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-12  8:08       ` [PATCH v4 4/6] fsck: check tag objects' headers Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-12  8:08       ` [PATCH v4 5/6] Add regression tests for stricter tag fsck'ing Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-12  8:08       ` [PATCH v4 6/6] Make sure that index-pack --strict checks tag objects Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-12 18:02       ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Improve tag checking in fsck and with transfer.fsckobjects Junio C Hamano
2014-09-13  9:08         ` Johannes Schindelin
     [not found] ` <cover.1410356761.git.johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
2014-09-10 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] Refactor type_from_string() to avoid die()ing in case of errors Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-10 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] Accept object data in the fsck_object() function Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-10 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] Make sure fsck_commit_buffer() does not run out of the buffer Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-10 17:43     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-11 11:59       ` Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-11 16:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-10 20:45     ` Eric Sunshine
2014-09-10 13:53   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] fsck: check tag objects' headers Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-10 17:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-10 13:53   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] Add regression tests for stricter tag fsck'ing Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-10 17:56     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-11 14:15       ` Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-10 13:53   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] Make sure that index-pack --strict fails upon invalid tag objects Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-10 21:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-11 14:22       ` Johannes Schindelin
2014-09-11 16:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-11 17:04           ` Johannes Schindelin

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