From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F63FC4338F for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 18:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1676660F39 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 18:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229722AbhHPSxU (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:53:20 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com ([173.228.157.53]:56680 "EHLO pb-smtp21.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230496AbhHPSxT (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:53:19 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A18A14E90D; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:52:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=PHMQahRb4oKcHeuFGw9xM9DGiJo3/F+MC56k0i 3K3xY=; b=jMvj2glxLdL6gFJghj1YVczCyf1m4vjR5LBZudbipZixu+VfsAQJoi lgsi4bPmx76OWLgI6DmQZhwDB59J86u2XSLyoK1D1/3sDDCupp/f4VtKnBHHdWc4 XdmSE2YvJ2HYB8Sb6wUwwyFcRkVxbKEtVXG/XiAdZZPPVmZXJkc1k= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337AE14E90C; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:52:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.74.3.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D4BB14E908; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:52:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: Jeff King Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev , Ben Goldberg , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: send-email issue References: <24a88faf-5339-8449-80c4-f6085bd1e098@benaaron.dev> <20210813180056.ctzivmakj4bj5apa@nitro.local> <20210816131143.6ifcbpxp6ilo2nv5@nitro.local> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 11:52:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Jeff King's message of "Mon, 16 Aug 2021 12:57:05 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 24374244-FEC3-11EB-8572-FA9E2DDBB1FC-77302942!pb-smtp21.pobox.com Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Jeff King writes: > This is certainly unfortunate, but IMHO is not a hard requirement for > adding new values. This is no different than a case where we add a new > config option, but old versions of Git quietly ignore it. > > In other words, I would suggest to tighten this as the values are added, > but not worry about having a "spreading" period. I would have agreed with you even in April if this knob were not about security. Thinking that the user is asking for an encrypted connection and silently getting an unencrypted connection is not such a good thing, and advertising "we now improved the distinction between smtps and starttls easier to express" to users would not work well in that context.