From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Martin K. Petersen" Subject: Re: end to end error recovery musings Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:51:44 -0500 Message-ID: References: <664A4EBB07F29743873A87CF62C26D705D6DDB@NAMAIL4.ad.lsil.com> <20070227190236.58323a40@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20070227233946.7ad33a50@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20070227233946.7ad33a50@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk's message of "Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:39:46 +0000") Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Alan Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" , "Moore, Eric" , ric@emc.com, Theodore Tso , Neil Brown , "H. Peter Anvin" , Linux-ide , linux-scsi , linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo , James Bottomley , Mark Lord , Jens Axboe , "Clark, Nathan" , "Singh, Arvinder" , "De Smet, Jochen" , "Farmer, Matt" , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, "Mizar, Sunita" List-Id: linux-raid.ids >>>>> "Alan" == Alan writes: >> Not sure you're up-to-date on the T10 data integrity feature. >> Essentially it's an extension of the 520 byte sectors common in >> disk [...] Alan> but here's a minor bit of passing bad news - quite a few older Alan> ATA controllers can't issue DMA transfers that are not a Alan> multiple of 512 bytes without crapping themselves (eg Alan> READ_LONG). Guess we may need to add Alan> ap-> i_do_not_suck or similar 8) I'm afraid it stops even before you get that far. There doesn't seem to be any interest in adopting the Data Integrity Feature (or anything similar) in the ATA camp. So for now it's a SCSI-only thing. I encourage people to lean on their favorite disk manufacturer. This would be a great feature to have on SATA too... -- Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Martin K. Petersen" Subject: Re: end to end error recovery musings Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:51:44 -0500 Message-ID: References: <664A4EBB07F29743873A87CF62C26D705D6DDB@NAMAIL4.ad.lsil.com> <20070227190236.58323a40@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20070227233946.7ad33a50@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" , "Moore, Eric" , , "Theodore Tso" , "Neil Brown" , "H. Peter Anvin" , "Linux-ide" , "linux-scsi" , , "Tejun Heo" , "James Bottomley" , "Mark Lord" , "Jens Axboe" , "Clark, Nathan" , "Singh, Arvinder" , "De Smet, Jochen" , "Farmer, Matt" , , "Mizar, Sunita" To: Alan Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20070227233946.7ad33a50@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk's message of "Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:39:46 +0000") Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org >>>>> "Alan" == Alan writes: >> Not sure you're up-to-date on the T10 data integrity feature. >> Essentially it's an extension of the 520 byte sectors common in >> disk [...] Alan> but here's a minor bit of passing bad news - quite a few older Alan> ATA controllers can't issue DMA transfers that are not a Alan> multiple of 512 bytes without crapping themselves (eg Alan> READ_LONG). Guess we may need to add Alan> ap-> i_do_not_suck or similar 8) I'm afraid it stops even before you get that far. There doesn't seem to be any interest in adopting the Data Integrity Feature (or anything similar) in the ATA camp. So for now it's a SCSI-only thing. I encourage people to lean on their favorite disk manufacturer. This would be a great feature to have on SATA too... -- Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering